From Zimmerman at Beyond the Boxscore via Rob Neyer.

 

Shows that the White Sox paid considerably less $ to the DL than any other team from 2002-2009. One of the article's conclusions:

"Teams should figure out what the White Sox are doing to prevent injuries. They are amazingly good."

 

This could go a long way towards explaining the Sox tendency to beat stat-based projections more often than not over that span.

 

Or it could just be a coincidence. Or a huge jinx.

From Zimmerman at Beyond the Boxscore via Rob Neyer.

 

Shows that the White Sox paid considerably less $ to the DL than any other team from 2002-2009. One of the article's conclusions:

"Teams should figure out what the White Sox are doing to prevent injuries. They are amazingly good."

 

This could go a long way towards explaining the Sox tendency to beat stat-based projections more often than not over that span.

 

Or it could just be a coincidence. Or a huge jinx.

Coming aboard with a splash! Nicely done.

 

I second Herm's nomination. Is he an M.D. or P.T. or what?

Is he an M.D. or P.T. or what?

 

Judging by his shape, most likely a PT Cruiser.

Judging by his shape, most likely a PT Cruiser.

Is Herm Schneider our new Fat Joke target!?!?!? That's brilliant, I never considered the coaching staff!

 

Hurray! There is hope for this season yet!

It's cool to see some stats backing up what a great job Herm and his crew do with the White Sox players. All we need to do as Sox fans is look at the debacle that happens with the Cubs to see how great it is to have Herm with the White Sox. I remember a year or two ago the Cubs trainer won some sort of award and how hard I laughed when Len and Bob had to sell it during the game.

 

I think the one thing that amazes me is the pitching staff and their health. Some of it has to do with JR and KW making some wise choices on contracts for pitchers, but even during a season Herm seems to keep them fresh. Herm is one of the reasons I have high hopes for Peavy's Sox career.

 

(Now I'm afraid this thread will be revived in July when all our players are struggling with horrific injuries!!!)

Coming aboard with a splash! Nicely done.

 

I second Herm's nomination. Is he an M.D. or P.T. or what?

I don't believe Herm has any professional certifications. IIRC, newer trainers need to be "certified athletic trainers," but Herm isn't.

I think the one thing that amazes me is the pitching staff and their health. Some of it has to do with JR and KW making some wise choices on contracts for pitchers, but even during a season Herm seems to keep them fresh. Herm is one of the reasons I have high hopes for Peavy's Sox career.

Don't forget Cooper's impact on the pitching staff. He's the one coming up with their offseason throwing schedules, their ST throwing schedules, probably a fair bit of their conditioning work, etc.

the health of this team has been an unbelievably underrated and underappreciated fact in the past decade...especially when it comes to the pitchign staff

 

starters who can pitch 200 innings of league average baseball are very valuable (at least according to market value) and we have been able to acquire/produce them and keep them healthy....Buehlre, Garland, Garcia (while he has been here), Loaiza, Vazquez, Danks, Floyd, Contreras

 

seriously ...when was the last time we had a starter we were depdending on blow out his arm or miss more than 15 or so days on the DL? I'm struggling to find one...i mean yeah colon a touch last year, but who before that? Cal Eldred??? Wells missed some time, and Sirotka never pitched after we had him. I'm sure I'm missing someone, but just look to the northside where last year in the last 1-2 years each of Harden, Zambrano, Lilly, and Dempster have missed at least 1 month

 

Even the positional players...AJ is as durable as catcher as there has ever been, Konerko has played alot...crede had back problems which was tough luck, and Thomas did too back in the day but a guy his size will have problems no matter what. The magglio injury was a freak thing nobody could have prevented...

 

Its a good thing herm Schneider has been there to cover up the horrendous organizational depth this franchise has had in the past 5 or so years

Edited February 22, 201016 yr by daa84

Don't forget Cooper's impact on the pitching staff. He's the one coming up with their offseason throwing schedules, their ST throwing schedules, probably a fair bit of their conditioning work, etc.

Aww, man, does that mean we have to give Walker credit too?

I don't believe Herm has any professional certifications. IIRC, newer trainers need to be "certified athletic trainers," but Herm isn't.

 

Herm is a certified athletic trainer. He is certified through the National Athletic Trainers Association (NATA) and licensed through the State of Illinois.

 

Within the last 5 years you needed to go to a 4 year Bachelor's program to be eligible to sit for the national certification exam. Previous to this you could do the intership route where you needed to get a Bachelor's degree in anything, take 9 specific courses and work 1800 hours under a certified trainer. Then you could sit for the exam. This is the route I took and what most people took prior to the mandatory Bachelor's degree.

Edited February 22, 201016 yr by ptatc

It doesn't surprise me in the least bit. Schneider has been with the team as far back as I can remember. Although he does not seem to take care of his own health, he always seems to be at the cutting edge of keeping guys in shape and really attacking injuries when they do happen.I recall hearing players are afraid to even admit an injury because they know Herm will get them in intense rehab as soon as possible and continue to target the problem area long after the injury has supposedly been cured. He is more inclined to use intense strengthening exercises to cure an injury versus excessive rest and medicine.

It's amazing how great of trainers and pitching coach we have, yet we can't seem to get a competent hitting coach.

It's cool to see some stats backing up what a great job Herm and his crew do with the White Sox players. All we need to do as Sox fans is look at the debacle that happens with the Cubs to see how great it is to have Herm with the White Sox. I remember a year or two ago the Cubs trainer won some sort of award and how hard I laughed when Len and Bob had to sell it during the game.

 

I think the one thing that amazes me is the pitching staff and their health. Some of it has to do with JR and KW making some wise choices on contracts for pitchers, but even during a season Herm seems to keep them fresh. Herm is one of the reasons I have high hopes for Peavy's Sox career.

 

(Now I'm afraid this thread will be revived in July when all our players are struggling with horrific injuries!!!)

 

I was thinking the exact same thing. We've been fortunate and I hope that continues.

Sans 2001, which just was a freak coincidence of bad injuries, Herm and his team have been amazing...

Is Herm Schneider our new Fat Joke target!?!?!? That's brilliant, I never considered the coaching staff!

 

Hurray! There is hope for this season yet!

 

Low hanging fruit is always the stuff that gets grabbed first...

It's cool to see some stats backing up what a great job Herm and his crew do with the White Sox players. All we need to do as Sox fans is look at the debacle that happens with the Cubs to see how great it is to have Herm with the White Sox. I remember a year or two ago the Cubs trainer won some sort of award and how hard I laughed when Len and Bob had to sell it during the game.

 

Facilities also have something to do with injury prevention. Wrigley has the bullpen mounds down the foul lines, and brick walls, and nearly every game some poor outfielder has to blindly run over the bullpen mounds at fairly high speed trying to chase a popup, hoping all the while that they don't hyperextend a knee or pull a hamstring. Plus we've all heard the stories about how cramped (or non-existent) the behind-the-scenes training space is at Wrigley.

 

So, I think we can thank Herm and his staff, plus the superior facilities at USCF and now Camelback Ranch. The Sox obviously care about injury prevention, which helps the team.

Walker helps too. He keeps the hitters' backs loose by having their swings be so long and stretched out.

 

This also has to do with the fact that our front office is pretty cautious when it comes to signing/trading for injury-heavy players. Guys like Quentin are the exception, but for the most part, we're a healthy team.

Edited February 22, 201016 yr by chw42

Low hanging fruit is always the stuff that gets grabbed first...

Ok, THERE'S a visual that I didn't want.

This also has to do with the fact that our front office is pretty cautious when it comes to signing/trading for injury-heavy players. Guys like Quentin are the exception, but for the most part, we're a healthy team.

Crede being gone helps a lot as well.

Walker helps too. He keeps the hitters' backs loose by having their swings be so long and stretched out.

 

This also has to do with the fact that our front office is pretty cautious when it comes to signing/trading for injury-heavy players. Guys like Quentin are the exception, but for the most part, we're a healthy team.

 

Peavy?

Peavy?

 

He hurt his ankle running the bases. He's never really had that many arm problems before, even with his violent pitching motion.

 

 

Edited February 22, 201016 yr by chw42

He hurt his ankle running the bases. He's never really had that many arm problems before, even with his violent pitching motion.

 

He does?

He does?

 

His motion is extremely violent. He bends his arm back at a very weird angle.

 

 

Take that image for example, the elbow seems to be bent way too far back for comfort. I've tried to replicate his pitching motion and my elbow starts hurting every time I try. If it's fine for him, then that's fine. But physics affects everybody and sooner or later, his elbow will start wearing down from that motion. Let's just hope it's after 2013.

 

Nice article for stuff like this: http://www.chrisoleary.com/Projects/Baseba...nic_200709.html

Edited February 22, 201016 yr by chw42