I'd keep Hudson simply because I don't think Sale will be a starter. He might be an option in the bullpen next year but Hudson could be a part of the rotation.

 

Give them Flowers, Morel + A prospect they like.

 

I'd think that Flowers has more value to this organization right now than Hudson. It's not going to be too difficult to find a cheap #5 starter on the FA market this winter. But we're definitely going to need a catcher in March, and a guy who's young, cheap for the next 6 years, and has Flowers' power aren't easy to come by.

 

I'm not going to read 16 pages, so I'm going to just join in the thread.

 

This would be a f***ing great move.

 

But if we lose this series to the Royals...well, I just don't know what to think.

Kenny is already on the record as saying Sale's changeup is better than either Buehrle's or Danks' right now.

 

He also said Nick Masset's stuff was just a "tick" below that of Bobby Jenks.

CST_SOX: Nats writers are reporting Sox have scouts at the Washington game tonight.

Because if there's one guy you NEED to scout it's Adam Dunn.

Because if there's one guy you NEED to scout it's Adam Dunn.

 

lol, yeah, we need to see if his defense is really as bad as some say it is.

Because if there's one guy you NEED to scout it's Adam Dunn.

Especially considering we just saw him...

I'm not going to read 16 pages, so I'm going to just join in the thread.

 

This would be a f***ing great move.

 

But if we lose this series to the Royals...well, I just don't know what to think.

It's a great move to trade Flowers and Hudson for Dunn, but only if we win 2/3 against the Royals as opposed to 1/3...so we're going to base our decision on giving up 12 years of service time for 4 months based on potentially 1 game against the Royals?

 

Makes perfect sense...

Maybe they're scouting a LH RP like Burnett.

Obviously it depends on how deep in the playoffs you go.

 

My guess is each game is worth $2-3 million in cash.

 

Not sure how the playoff media revenues work.

 

Then there is the additional season ticket sales you make the next year.

 

My guess is a playoff appearance can be worth upwards of $30-40 million if you win the whole thing. Maybe $6-10 million if you go out in the ALDS. Probably $14-20 Million if you go out in the ALCS. And $20-30 million if you lose in the World Series.

 

Look at in this order.

 

http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?opt...s&Itemid=39

 

http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?opt...s&Itemid=39

CST_SOX: Nats writers are reporting Sox have scouts at the Washington game tonight.

 

Multi-player deal?

 

Look at in this order.

 

http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?opt...s&Itemid=39

 

http://www.bizofbaseball.com/index.php?opt...s&Itemid=39

You think they are counting concession and memorabilia sales too?

Multi-player deal?

 

That's what I was thinking. I doubt they are just scouting Dunn. Maybe they are looking at Morgan/Bernadina as well.

That's what I was thinking. I doubt they are just scouting Dunn. Maybe they are looking at Morgan/Bernadina as well.

I like Roger.

 

Nyjer, not so much.

No to Morgan, he's a younger Juan Pierre.

 

And I do like Bernadina. That guy hits a lot of line drives, or so it seems.

Why am I the only Sox fan that wants absolutely no part of Adam Dunn. I feel like it's an insult to our fan base trading for him when we could have signed Thome this offseason. My wish list is Prince Fielder or Adrian Gonzalez... I know that is unrealistic, but I'm thinking long term contending

Why am I the only Sox fan that wants absolutely no part of Adam Dunn. I feel like it's an insult to our fan base trading for him when we could have signed Thome this offseason. My wish list is Prince Fielder or Adrian Gonzalez... I know that is unrealistic, but I'm thinking long term contending

 

Agreed with the bolded part.

 

Why am I the only Sox fan that wants absolutely no part of Adam Dunn. I feel like it's an insult to our fan base trading for him when we could have signed Thome this offseason. My wish list is Prince Fielder or Adrian Gonzalez... I know that is unrealistic, but I'm thinking long term contending

I'm not real fond of the idea either.

Why am I the only Sox fan that wants absolutely no part of Adam Dunn. I feel like it's an insult to our fan base trading for him when we could have signed Thome this offseason. My wish list is Prince Fielder or Adrian Gonzalez... I know that is unrealistic, but I'm thinking long term contending

 

I agree, but at this point we can't just sit here w/ Kotsay and kick dirt around hoping we had Thome.

I'm not real fond of the idea either.

me either if we could get a couple more years of him i'd think about it but for only 3 months....nah i'll pass

Why is it an insult to the fanbase?? Dunn is better than Thome.

 

And yes, better players tend to cost more. Dunn costs more than what it wouldve taken to sign Thome (peanuts)

 

That much, yes, is true; Thome is a bargain. But that isnt to say he puts your everyday lefthanded slugger role at a championship level like Dunn would.

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Why is it an insult to the fanbase?? Dunn is better than Thome.

 

And yes, better players tend to cost more. Dunn costs more than what it wouldve taken to sign Thome (peanuts)

 

That much, yes, is true; Thome is a bargain. But that isnt to say he puts your everyday lefthanded slugger role at a championship level like Dunn would.

 

Thome .951 OPS

Dunn .909 OPS (in the NL)

Dunn currently has a 146 OPS+ in 314 PA. Thome has 148 OPS+ in 137 PA this season. Granted, Dunn is young enough to be in the lineup every day and he can play 1B without killing himself. But the point still stands that we could've avoided spending an extra $4.5M and giving up two of our better prospects by re-upping the older, more fragile player with similar offensive output.

 

Dunn currently has a 146 OPS+ in 314 PA. Thome has 148 OPS+ in 137 PA this season. Granted, Dunn is young enough to be in the lineup every day and he can play 1B without killing himself. But the point still stands that we could've avoided spending an extra $4.5M and giving up two of our better prospects by re-upping the older, more fragile player with similar offensive output.

 

The extra $4.5 mil for just half a season.

 

and Thome hit another home run tonight......for the team leading our division.

 

It was the ultimate no-brainer, and Ozzie proved himself to be just that.

 

"I never tell Kenny who to sign and who to release - well a couple guys to release. I told Kenny, 'Hey, I don't want this guy at the ballpark.' And there's one guy where I said to Kenny, 'Hey, can we keep this guy?' And that was Kotsay.''

 

http://blogs.suntimes.com/whitesox/2009/12...er_talk_fr.html

 

It was the ultimate no-brainer, and Ozzie proved himself to be just that.