mcgrad70 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:42 PM) That start a week ago has overshadowed how awful he's been lately. Lately? He's consistently terrible. You guys need to watch some really good baseball teams. You're clueless as to what constitutes a good middle relief. The Sox haven't had one since Dennis Lamb in 1983. Pena wouldn't be on most rosters. He wouldn't be on any of the contenders except the Sox. Edited August 29, 2010 by mcgrad70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 06:50 PM) I see 9-10. Pitcher o' the month, then... Not much after that. My point, and the conversation at the time----> not an ace. 9-10 isn't really an ace's numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:53 PM) Lately? He's consistently terrible. You guys need to watch some really good baseball teams. You're clueless as to what constitutes a good middle reliefs. The Sox haven't had one since Dennis Lamb in 1983. Pena wouldn't be on most rosters. He wouldn't be on any of the contenders except the Sox. Calm down, killer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 01:53 AM) Lately? He's consistently terrible. You guys need to watch some really good baseball teams. You're clueless as to what constitutes a good middle reliefs. The Sox haven't had one since Dennis Lamb in 1983. Pena wouldn't be on most rosters. He wouldn't be on any of the contenders except the Sox. Sean Lowe was great. Pena's had good spurts as a long reliever, but he's been dismal as a short reliever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (bobryansson @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:54 PM) Pitcher o' the month, then... Not much after that. My point, and the conversation at the time----> not an ace. 9-10 isn't really an ace's numbers. I must have missed where someone said Gavin Floyd was an ace...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 So the consensus is to just play Carlos Quentin at home vs RHP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgrad70 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Pena gives up 2 of Danks runners and 2 of his own putting the game out of reach. It is absolutely remarkable how many times he's done that during the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 06:55 PM) I must have missed where someone said Gavin Floyd was an ace...? No, someone said the somebody or another was pitcher of the month and inferred that indicated ace-hood sort of. Then somebody said it didn't. I offered GF as an example of it not. (Sorry, with the game as it is and my general laziness, I don't feel like going back to look it up. Anyway, it's all good... other than the score... And Danks' performance... and bullpen injuries... And our designated "hitters"...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 I think Rios thought the wall was closer, and may have messed up his shoulder a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcgrad70 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (Jenks Heat @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:43 PM) trying to get danks the win was a bad ozzie move His abrasiveness aside, his horrific handling of pitchers will be his downfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 What a catch by Alex there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:57 PM) So the consensus is to just play Carlos Quentin at home vs RHP? I didn't even realize he's been so bad against LHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Nice tip of the hat from Swish to Rios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (mcgrad70 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 09:02 PM) His abrasiveness aside, his horrific handling of pitchers will be his downfall. Wha? I think his handling of pitchers is vastly better than his handling of offenses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:02 PM) I think Rios thought the wall was closer, and may have messed up his shoulder a little. I thought that too. Hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 01:03 AM) I didn't even realize he's been so bad against LHP. He doesn't clear his hips enough when he faces LHP, so even if he gets good pitches to hit, he fouls it straight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (bobryansson @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 08:00 PM) No, someone said the somebody or another was pitcher of the month and inferred that indicated ace-hood sort of. Then somebody said it didn't. I offered GF as an example of it not. (Sorry, with the game as it is and my general laziness, I don't feel like going back to look it up. Anyway, it's all good... other than the score... And Danks' performance... and bullpen injuries... And our designated "hitters"...) I made the original comment, but it was saying that Jackson is a POTM candidate, and that basically says how dominant he has been with us. I forgot to highlight the part I was referring to, so some people thought I was saying POTM award makes him an ace, when I was referring to him being dominant. It was a misunderstanding from the get-go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (bobryansson @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 01:04 AM) I thought that too. Hope not. Hope he doesn't lose his power Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (bobryansson @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 08:04 PM) I thought that too. Hope not. Yeah, the timing of his jump seemed to indicate he was going to hit the wall in the air, but I think the wall surprised him when he realized he jumped a little too early. I hope he is alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:04 PM) I made the original comment, but it was saying that Jackson is a POTM candidate, and that basically says how dominant he has been with us. I forgot to highlight the part I was referring to, so some people thought I was saying POTM award makes him an ace, when I was referring to him being dominant. It was a misunderstanding from the get-go. You're certainly right about the POTM numbers for EJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 QUOTE (bobryansson @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 09:06 PM) You're certainly right about the POTM numbers for EJ. The problem is...there have been 3 guys who have been just as good as Jackson, all of whom have thrown 7-8 more innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Torres has the worst pickoff move in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Nice pick-off move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobryansson Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 29, 2010 Share Posted August 29, 2010 Safe to say Lillibridge is having trouble getting around on C.C.'s fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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