November 27, 201015 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 01:50 PM) And they had Damaso Marte And aside from swisher, what do they have in common? Basically all pitchers, bullpen pitchers in fact.
November 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 23, 2010 -> 12:06 PM) They aren't actually assessing a monetary value that, but instead using a monetary figure to help correlate performance on the field to how much it is worth given market conditions. They aren't suggesting that the Giants should have paid Bonds $37.8 million in 2004, but they are instead showing how good he was offensively using his WAR multiplied by the price teams pay for 1 win share. Bonds was a 12.2 WAR player in 2004 - meaning he was worth just over 12 wins all by himself - and teams paid $3.1 million per win share (price of win share, or pWS) in 2004; thus, Bonds' WAR*pWS = $37.8 mill. Mark Kotsay was a bad player, and I don't think it's really debatable that his presence on the team cost the Sox wins. Thus, he has a negative WAR. Taking his WAR*pWS = some negative number. He's not actually worth negative dollars, but instead it helps compare how bad he was. But even their monetary value is off. Its silly to say Jose Contreras' 10-17 5.52 ERA season is a 10.6 million performance fangraphs gave it in 2007, and his 2009 6-13 with a 4.92 ERA an 11 million dollar performance.
November 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Nov 28, 2010 -> 03:58 AM) But even their monetary value is off. Its silly to say Jose Contreras' 10-17 5.52 ERA season is a 10.6 million performance fangraphs gave it in 2007, and his 2009 6-13 with a 4.92 ERA an 11 million dollar performance. This has been one supremely boring offseason so far. Hopefully s*** picks up in December.
November 28, 201015 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 12:41 PM) Yankees signed (THE) Brian Anderson and Andy Sisco. So...that makes like 3 players that they have recently signed that we used to have? Cotts, Anderson, and Sisco? Sisco seems to be healthy and is throwing 95 in winter ball. If he has his velocity back, he is worth an invite to spring training for sure. Too bad it is with the Yankees.
November 29, 201015 yr QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Nov 27, 2010 -> 01:50 PM) And they had Damaso Marte And they tried to land Don Cooper. Maybe the rest of the league (at least the Yankees) is buying into that old adage. Edited November 29, 201015 yr by Milkman delivers
November 29, 201015 yr Holy crap, Dodgers are giving Uribe $21 mil/3!? http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/9312882084806656 He had a solid season and a real nice playoff run but seriously? $7 million a year?
November 29, 201015 yr QUOTE (bschmaranz @ Nov 29, 2010 -> 12:36 PM) Holy crap, Dodgers are giving Uribe $21 mil/3!? http://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/9312882084806656 He had a solid season and a real nice playoff run but seriously? $7 million a year? Wow. I guess the Dodgers money problems are over...
December 1, 201015 yr It is speculated that Berman could sign somewhere for $7 million for one year. He was a mess for the Yankees, but I wonder if that'd be a good deal.
December 1, 201015 yr QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 29, 2010 -> 03:41 PM) Wow. I guess the Dodgers money problems are over... Yah, apparently they replaced them with a drinking problem. Good for Uribe, though!
December 1, 201015 yr QUOTE (pittshoganerkoff @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 07:21 PM) It is speculated that Berman could sign somewhere for $7 million for one year. He was a mess for the Yankees, but I wonder if that'd be a good deal. Took me forever to figure out you meant Berkman.
December 1, 201015 yr QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 07:58 PM) Took me forever to figure out you meant Berkman. Me too. I was wondering what anyone would give Chris Berman all that money for... Edited December 1, 201015 yr by bschmaranz
December 1, 201015 yr QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Nov 30, 2010 -> 07:58 PM) Took me forever to figure out you meant Berkman. Thank you for that, because I sure had no idea who Berman would be replacing...
December 1, 201015 yr Jamie Moyer to have Tommy John surgery today. Vows to pitch again in 2012 when he will be 49.
December 1, 201015 yr Orel Hershiser, Bobby Valentine and Dan Shulman will form the new announcing team for "Sunday Night Baseball," ESPN announced Wednesday. Linkity.
December 2, 201015 yr Author QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 05:47 PM) Linkity. Bobby Valentine...ugh
December 2, 201015 yr QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 06:47 PM) Linkity. I like Orel Hersiser's commentary. I enjoyed him in the CWS (or was it LLWS?)
December 2, 201015 yr QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 01:22 PM) Jamie Moyer to have Tommy John surgery today. Vows to pitch again in 2012 when he will be 49. That's a hell of a passion for him to want to go through the extensive recovery and come back to pitch again. Hell, teams wouldn't be lining up for his services right now if he were healthy... what about after TJ and at 49? What's the best he can do after? A minor league contract with a ST invite?
December 2, 201015 yr QUOTE (Whitewashed in '05 @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 08:40 PM) That's a hell of a passion for him to want to go through the extensive recovery and come back to pitch again. Hell, teams wouldn't be lining up for his services right now if he were healthy... what about after TJ and at 49? What's the best he can do after? A minor league contract with a ST invite? I imagine he is trying to reach that 300-win plateau....I think he's at 274 now.
December 2, 201015 yr QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 08:42 PM) I imagine he is trying to reach that 300-win plateau....I think he's at 274 now. I doubt it. He wants to pad his HR allowed record.
December 2, 201015 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 1, 2010 -> 09:17 PM) Bobby Valentine...ugh Agreed, I'd much prefer Jose Valentin. His voice is hilarious.
December 2, 201015 yr Author QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Dec 2, 2010 -> 03:43 AM) Agreed, I'd much prefer Jose Valentin. His voice is hilarious. And his mustache
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