Last year at this time the words on this site were all about our great rotation and our HOF'er Gordon Beckham.

We thought Visquel was too old

He gets a raw deal because that low .800's OPS is barely enough production to offset the terrible job he did defensively in RF.

And the games missed that force the Sox to play guys like Teahen in RF. Forget the statistical projection for Carlos, if he can play 150 games, the season was a victory for him.

He gets a raw deal because that low .800's OPS is barely enough production to offset the terrible job he did defensively in RF.

 

Not everyone is going to be good with the stick as well as in the field, Ill take the offense from him over the defense..

Not everyone is going to be good with the stick as well as in the field, Ill take the offense from him over the defense..

 

Yep. Me too. I don't need role players to be two way stars. Quentin is a run producer and a good one. Whatever he costs the team in RF he likely more than makes up for it at the plate.

Yep. Me too. I don't need role players to be two way stars. Quentin is a run producer and a good one. Whatever he costs the team in RF he likely more than makes up for it at the plate.

 

Both FGs and B-R say that this is not the case.

Both FGs and B-R say that this is not the case.

 

As does the eye test.

Yep. Me too. I don't need role players to be two way stars. Quentin is a run producer and a good one. Whatever he costs the team in RF he likely more than makes up for it at the plate.

 

Do you have any idea how bad CQ was in RF? Smallz from the Sandlot wouldn't have been any worse. Unless you're prime Manny Ramirez with the bat, you have negative value overall when you're that horrendous defensively.

Edited February 17, 201115 yr by Jordan4life

Do you have any idea how bad CQ was in RF? Smallz from the Sandlot wouldn't have been any worse. Unless you're prime Manny Ramirez with the bat, you have negative value overall when you're that horrendous defensively.

 

Manny never actually put up a UZR as bad as Quentin did last year.

Manny never actually put up a UZR as bad as Quentin did last year.

 

I know. But he's the best example I could come up with of a guy who was pretty putrid in the field but nobody cared because he was sporting 1.000+ OPSs every year.

I know. But he's the best example I could come up with of a guy who was pretty putrid in the field but nobody cared because he was sporting 1.000+ OPSs every year.

It's really not that hard J4L.

 

Adam Dunn.

 

Carlos Quentin last year was Adam Dunn in RF, except he hit

It's really not that hard J4L.

 

Adam Dunn.

 

Carlos Quentin last year was Adam Dunn in RF, except he hit

 

That's what I was getting at. His defense is horrendous. People can say his offense will make up for his defense, and who knows it may, but it'll be interesting to see how many balls Quentin misses that an average right fielder would make.

Both FGs and B-R say that this is not the

 

If his value is so obviously so incredibly negative why would the Sox ever run him out there?! Ever?

 

I can't believe Mike Gellinger hasn't noticed this.

Edited February 18, 201115 yr by bucket-of-suck

Dunn, D, Dunn, Dunn.

 

Dunn, D, Dunn, Dunn.......DUNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's what I was getting at. His defense is horrendous. People can say his offense will make up for his defense, and who knows it may, but it'll be interesting to see how many balls Quentin misses that an average right fielder would make.

It is possible that Carlos could be better with the glove this season, just from either practice or from being further removed from injuries. Even a modest improvement would make a big difference since he was so bad last year.

 

But if that doesn't happen, then he's almost a liability if he hits under 30 HR. If he's hitting 40+, he's winning games with the bat even if he's losing them with the glove, which is where Dunn was most of his seasons in the NL.

If his value is so obviously so incredibly negative why would the Sox ever run him out there?! Ever?

 

I can't believe Mike Gellinger hasn't noticed this.

 

Because there is no way to tangibly see that number, but the consensus is that it is a pretty accurate number. Besides, it's not like bad defense has ever stopped Ozzie from putting someone in RF; indeed, it's the only thing he ever has put in RF.

 

The Sox needed Quentin's bat in the lineup, so they need to find a spot to get him on the field, and RF makes the most sense. Makes sense to me atleast.

Because there is no way to tangibly see that number, but the consensus is that it is a pretty accurate number. Besides, it's not like bad defense has ever stopped Ozzie from putting someone in RF; indeed, it's the only thing he ever has put in RF.

 

The Sox needed Quentin's bat in the lineup, so they need to find a spot to get him on the field, and RF makes the most sense. Makes sense to me atleast.

Dye was not a horrible RF in his first 2-3 years with the Sox. He went downhill quickly after that though.

 

Dunn, D, Dunn, Dunn.

 

Dunn, D, Dunn, Dunn.......DUNN!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

Theme from Dragnet?

Do you have any idea how bad CQ was in RF? Smallz from the Sandlot wouldn't have been any worse. Unless you're prime Manny Ramirez with the bat, you have negative value overall when you're that horrendous defensively.

Don't hate on Smallz.

That's what I was getting at. His defense is horrendous. People can say his offense will make up for his defense, and who knows it may, but it'll be interesting to see how many balls Quentin misses that an average right fielder would make.

How many more balls will he get to this season if his Plantar fasciitis is healed?