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Starting Rotation already set?

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Edwin Jackson in line to start 2nd game

 

Found this part interesting:

 

The Sox have set up their rotation for the first five exhibition games. Gavin Floyd, the likely No. 4 starter, will pitch the Sox's exhibition opening on Feb. 28 against the Los Angeles Dodgers. Opening day starter Mark Buehrle will face Milwaukee on March 1, followed by Jackson on March 2 against Cincinnati at Goodyear and left-hander John Danks on March 3 against Seattle.

 

I know it may not be definite, but I thought Danks might actually get the nod this year. But Buehrle getting it works too.

 

QUOTE (CSF @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 05:25 PM)
Edwin Jackson in line to start 2nd game

 

Found this part interesting:

 

 

 

I know it may not be definite, but I thought Danks might actually get the nod this year. But Buehrle getting it works too.

 

I figured that Buehrle would be #1 and Danks would be #3, and then Jackson would be #2 until Peavy comes back, and then he is #4. I think Floyd is our last (permanent) starter the whole season.

Pretty much unless Buerhle falls off of a cliff, he will be the opening day starter as long as he is here.

We all know the sox always try and break up Danks and Buehrle from pitching back to back in the rotation. Given that they are both lefties and pitch similar styles it makes sense.

Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 05:00 PM)
We all know the sox always try and break up Danks and Buehrle from pitching back to back in the rotation. Given that they are both lefties and pitch similar styles it makes sense.

 

I don't think they have similar styles at all. They both have a cutter and rely on location, but really, what truly effective starting pitcher DOESN'T rely on location in some regard? Maybe RA Dickey.

 

Buehrle is very much a finesse pitcher, trying to fool hitters by changing just a little bit of speed and movement from pitch to pitch, trying to get hitters ahead, behind, or to miss the sweet spot of the bat. If he gets strikeouts, good, but he basically wants the hitter to get himself out. Danks goes right at hitters with a good fastball, uses the cutter to get hitters to make mistakes, and uses the changeup to get hitters out.

 

It makes sense to break up the lefties not because they are similar in how they pitch but because it gets hitters looking to different sides of the mound in back to back games. It will be easier to hit a lefty if you have recently faced a lefty.

 

If it hasn't been done, it would be interesting to see if there is any correlation between offensive success when facing lefties on back to back days. I would imagine that it'd be very difficult to control (due to varying levels of talent of left handed pitchers and managerial philosophies) and that the results would yield no significant outcome.

 

 

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 06:39 PM)
Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories.

 

He beat them 1-0 in 2005 :)

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 07:39 PM)
Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories.

 

I agree. What are the bets for this year? 4 IP, 6 ER?

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 08:51 PM)
I agree. What are the bets for this year? 4 IP, 6 ER?

Yeah, that Cleveland lineup...

Lest we forget, he won last year too. Play of the year.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 07:51 PM)
I agree. What are the bets for this year? 4 IP, 6 ER?

 

Are you serious? You're more negative than me of late. I think you're wrong if you are. But I love it.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 08:56 PM)
Are you serious? You're more negative than me of late. I think you're wrong if you are. But I love it.

 

It was an exaggeration since it seems like Buehrle always get lit up on opening day for whatever reason.

For schnitz and griddles

 

Buehrle's FIRST start of the year (so not technically opening day, but I'm pretty sure his only non-opening day start was 2006)

 

2002 - 6 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K (W)

2003 - 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 1 K (L)

2004 - 6.2 IP, 8 H, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost)

2005 - 8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K (W)

2006 - 4 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 1 K (rain-delay halfway through, hence the lack of innings...Sox won)

2007 - 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox won)

2008 - 1.2 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost)

2009 - 5 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 3 K (ND, Sox won)

2010 - 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K (W)

 

Totals - 46.2 IP, 41 H, 19 R (18 ER), 14 BB, 21 K

Average - 5.1 IP, 4.5 H, 2 R, 1.6 BB, 2.3 K

Peripherals - 3.47 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 2.7 BB/9, 4 K/9

 

I would say that the notion that Buehrle has been a bad opening day starter is way overblown. In fact, I would argue that, outside of 2 starts, he's been exceptional on Opening Day.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 06:39 PM)
Buehrle starting opening day against Cleveland = bad memories.

Honestly, (if I doesn't cost us the division) I'll sacrifice one game of the year for a year's worth of exposure that we got last year with the daily Buerhlemeter on Baseball Tonight. The first game won't make or break this season; the rotation always gets rotated around that it rarely ends up 1 v. 1 anyway.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 09:49 PM)
For schnitz and griddles

 

Buehrle's FIRST start of the year (so not technically opening day, but I'm pretty sure his only non-opening day start was 2006)

 

2002 - 6 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K (W)

2003 - 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 1 K (L)

2004 - 6.2 IP, 8 H, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost)

2005 - 8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K (W)

2006 - 4 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 1 K (rain-delay halfway through, hence the lack of innings...Sox won)

2007 - 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox won)

2008 - 1.2 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost)

2009 - 5 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 3 K (ND, Sox won)

2010 - 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K (W)

 

Totals - 46.2 IP, 41 H, 19 R (18 ER), 14 BB, 21 K

Average - 5.1 IP, 4.5 H, 2 R, 1.6 BB, 2.3 K

Peripherals - 3.47 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 2.7 BB/9, 4 K/9

 

I would say that the notion that Buehrle has been a bad opening day starter is way overblown. In fact, I would argue that, outside of 2 starts, he's been exceptional on Opening Day.

 

And of those two, he was hurt in one of them.

2007 wasn't Opening Day. Contreras got it and I'm pissed to this day.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 09:49 PM)
For schnitz and griddles

 

Buehrle's FIRST start of the year (so not technically opening day, but I'm pretty sure his only non-opening day start was 2006)

 

2002 - 6 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 2 BB, 5 K (W)

2003 - 7 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 1 K (L)

2004 - 6.2 IP, 8 H, 3 R (2 ER), 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost)

2005 - 8 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K (W)

2006 - 4 IP, 4 H, 3 R, 1 BB, 1 K (rain-delay halfway through, hence the lack of innings...Sox won)

2007 - 1.1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox won)

2008 - 1.2 IP, 7 H, 7 R, 1 BB, 1 K (ND, Sox lost)

2009 - 5 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 3 BB, 3 K (ND, Sox won)

2010 - 7 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 3 K (W)

 

Totals - 46.2 IP, 41 H, 19 R (18 ER), 14 BB, 21 K

Average - 5.1 IP, 4.5 H, 2 R, 1.6 BB, 2.3 K

Peripherals - 3.47 ERA, 1.18 WHIP, 2.7 BB/9, 4 K/9

 

I would say that the notion that Buehrle has been a bad opening day starter is way overblown. In fact, I would argue that, outside of 2 starts, he's been exceptional on Opening Day.

 

Damn you and your evidence.

 

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2011 -> 05:54 PM)
Pretty much unless Buerhle falls off of a cliff, he will be the opening day starter as long as he is here.

 

This, and it should be obvious to everyone.

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