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2011-2012 NCAA Basketball Thread

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Missouri won their tournament and gets a 2nd seed, not in Midwest.

 

 

Marcus Denmon ‏ @MizzouMonster12

Moral of the story schedule tough non conference games lose em get a high seed

 

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QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:31 PM)
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Missouri won their tournament and gets a 2nd seed, not in Midwest.

 

 

Marcus Denmon ‏ @MizzouMonster12

Moral of the story schedule tough non conference games lose em get a high seed

 

They still didn't win the conference though.

Game times are out!

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:45 PM)
They still didn't win the conference though.

 

That might hold weight, if Kansas was a 1.

 

Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed.

 

And if winning the conference outside the tournament is that important

 

1) Why have the tournament

 

2) Why isn't Washington in the bracket?

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 09:39 PM)
That might hold weight, if Kansas was a 1.

 

Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed.

 

And if winning the conference outside the tournament is that important

 

1) Why have the tournament

 

2) Why isn't Washington in the bracket?

 

 

How many #1 seeds have not won their conference in the regular season? Honest question.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:39 PM)
That might hold weight, if Kansas was a 1.

 

Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed.

 

And if winning the conference outside the tournament is that important

 

1) Why have the tournament

The major conferences have the tournament for one reason. To make money. That's the only one.

 

2) Why isn't Washington in the bracket?

Because the Pac12 sucked and there were more deserving teams. The Pac 12 didn't have a full round robin schedule. Washington won the conference, but lost to Cal at home who had a similar if not better resume. The "won the conference argument can't be made here because the conferences aren't equal.

Edited by Rex Hudler

danman, I get your angst over Missouri not getting the number one seed. I'm not a bracketologist but looking at those that make the predictions did not have Missouri on the one line. So I will assume they didn't belong and were a deserving #2 for the purposes of this post.

 

What I don't get is everyone whining about Missouri getting the last 2 seed as #8 on the S curve. Who the hell cares. That position did them a favor. They ended up paired with the weakest #1 seed so despite their position on the S curve, it wasn't followed and they benefitted. Would you really have rather been opposite North Carolina just to get a possible Sweet Sixteeh spot in St. Louis than getting Michigan State in Phoenix? I understand the allure of playing near home, but I'd much rather potentially see Michigan St.

Rex, I was playing Devil's Advocate

 

And Heads, how many 30 win teams haven't been the 1 seed? I can answer that. Zero.

 

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 10:23 PM)
Rex, I was playing Devil's Advocate

 

And Heads, how many 30 win teams haven't been the 1 seed? I can answer that. Zero.

Only big 6 30 win team...

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 02:39 AM)
Missouri is the only 30 win team ever to not get a 1 seed.

Well that's not true.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 09:05 PM)
danman, I get your angst over Missouri not getting the number one seed. I'm not a bracketologist but looking at those that make the predictions did not have Missouri on the one line. So I will assume they didn't belong and were a deserving #2 for the purposes of this post.

 

What I don't get is everyone whining about Missouri getting the last 2 seed as #8 on the S curve. Who the hell cares. That position did them a favor. They ended up paired with the weakest #1 seed so despite their position on the S curve, it wasn't followed and they benefitted. Would you really have rather been opposite North Carolina just to get a possible Sweet Sixteeh spot in St. Louis than getting Michigan State in Phoenix? I understand the allure of playing near home, but I'd much rather potentially see Michigan St.

Selfishly I wanted St. Louis because I would have gone.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 10:18 PM)
Selfishly I wanted St. Louis because I would have gone.

 

That logic, I cannot argue with. I was hoping IU would be in Nashville for the same reason.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 10:58 PM)
Well that's not true.

 

They kept saying it on ESPN...?

 

QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 11:18 PM)
Selfishly I wanted St. Louis because I would have gone.

 

This. I drive through St. Louis on the 23rd on my way back home. Wanted that so bad.

 

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:57 AM)
They kept saying it on ESPN...?

 

Well, Murray State this year.

So you were willing to give up St. Louis for a #1 seed, but if you were a #2 you wanted to be in the midwest? If Missouri got a #1 seed, they would have most certainly gotten shipped to the west.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 02:07 AM)
So you were willing to give up St. Louis for a #1 seed, but if you were a #2 you wanted to be in the midwest? If Missouri got a #1 seed, they would have most certainly gotten shipped to the west.

Yeah that was more arguing over semantics.

 

As for the 30 win thing, the stat I heard (via a friend not ESPN) applied to major conferences.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 01:57 AM)
They kept saying it on ESPN...?

 

 

 

This. I drive through St. Louis on the 23rd on my way back home. Wanted that so bad.

First 30 win team from a bcs conference...

How many #1 seeds have not won their conference in the regular season? Honest question.

 

Not sure, but I know that conferences have gotten multiple #1 seeds several times before, so obviously in those cases there were #1 seeds that didn't win their conference.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Mar 11, 2012 -> 08:28 PM)
Cal complaining about having the toughest region despite being in by far the easiest region.

 

They have by far the hardest potential second round matchup. They can't be happy about having a team as talented as UConn right there. They could definitely bring them down.

QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 02:07 AM)
So you were willing to give up St. Louis for a #1 seed, but if you were a #2 you wanted to be in the midwest? If Missouri got a #1 seed, they would have most certainly gotten shipped to the west.

 

I feel like Missouri is disrespected with the #2, after actually winning their Conference Tournament and of the top 8 only Michigan State did as well, but a #2 in St. Louis would have made up for it.

 

QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 03:31 AM)
Yeah that was more arguing over semantics.

 

As for the 30 win thing, the stat I heard (via a friend not ESPN) applied to major conferences.

Ok, that would make more sense.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 03:24 PM)
They have by far the hardest potential second round matchup. They can't be happy about having a team as talented as UConn right there. They could definitely bring them down.

I would be far more worried with White and Iowa State than UCONN. Creighton and Memphis are the worst 8/9 games for number ones.

Apparently Mizzou needed to play someone in non-conference. They were one spot from a 3.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 10:38 PM)
Apparently Mizzou needed to play someone in non-conference. They were one spot from a 3.

I blame Illinois for sucking so much.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 10:07 PM)
I blame Illinois for sucking so much.

 

ouch!

QUOTE (danman31 @ Mar 12, 2012 -> 11:07 PM)
I blame Illinois for sucking so much.

We're probably one of the only teams the committee even recognized on there.

 

Good thing we didn't pull that out, would have pushed you into the 4 range.

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