How's his defense?

Bad enough that this thread has already talked about moving him to the OF.

He'd be far superior to Morel offensively at 3b

Who wouldn't.

 

If we wanted to take a gamble on an underachieving third base prospect, KW should make a move for Ian Stewart. At least he can play some defense.

Who wouldn't.

Alex Rios.

Gamel does have some good potential. We'd give him a shot at 3b it would seem. However, price is going to be high for him since he's Prince's replacement.

I was under the impression that Gamel wasn't really part of the Brewers future anymore.

 

He also has some serious work to do with his approach. He looks like Russ Branyan/Ross Gload at bat, and thats a terrible combination.

How do you know?

 

Cause it would be hard to be worse, and the question about Gamel has never really been his offense.

Alex Rios.

Shoot, that is pretty much a wash offensively there. At least Morel will hustle.

Cause it would be hard to be worse, and the question about Gamel has never really been his offense.

Really, if there were no question about his offense, wouldn't he be in the majors already, at least moved to a new position?

Really, if there were no question about his offense, wouldn't he be in the majors already, at least moved to a new position?

LF Braun

1B Prince

RF Corey Hart

DH - it's the NL

 

Where exactly are you playing him, Balta? They've thrown him at 3rd a few times, but come on, not everything is as cut and dry as you always want it to be.

Cause it would be hard to be worse, and the question about Gamel has never really been his offense.

agreed. Has there ever been a player that has gotten more of a free pass than Morel? The rios and dunn struggles have really hidden the fact that this guy has been abysmal on offense

LF Braun

1B Prince

RF Corey Hart

DH - it's the NL

 

Where exactly are you playing him, Balta? They've thrown him at 3rd a few times, but come on, not everything is as cut and dry as you always want it to be.

Ahead of Casey McGee and Josh Wilson at 3b?

 

Here's a question for you. Which team has a worse OPS on the season at 3b, the White Sox or the Brewers?

 

I'll give you a moment to ponder that since I'm typing the question.

 

The Brewers have actually gotten less production at 3b than the White Sox have this year. They've gotten a .537 OPS out of their 3b spot, but they haven't used Gamel to replace that position. Brent Morel at 3b would be an upgrade of 30 points of OPS for them.

 

So, Matt Gamel is not replacing Brent Morel for the Sox.

agreed. Has there ever been a player that has gotten more of a free pass than Morel? The rios and dunn struggles have really hidden the fact that this guy has been abysmal on offense

 

The difference is Morel is a rookie who is playing great defense and making the league minimum. How angry can you be about that?

Ahead of Casey McGee and Josh Wilson at 3b?

 

Here's a question for you. Which team has a worse OPS on the season at 3b, the White Sox or the Brewers?

 

I'll give you a moment to ponder that since I'm typing the question.

 

The Brewers have actually gotten less production at 3b than the White Sox have this year. They've gotten a .537 OPS out of their 3b spot, but they haven't used Gamel to replace that position. Brent Morel at 3b would be an upgrade of 30 points of OPS for them.

 

So, Matt Gamel is not replacing Brent Morel for the Sox.

I didn't list 3B because it's clear he shouldn't be playing 3b. You stick his ass in the outfield.

I didn't list 3B because it's clear he shouldn't be playing 3b. You stick his ass in the outfield.

Then why did this particular discussion start with fathom saying "He'd be far superior offensively to Morel at 3b"?

The difference is Morel is a rookie who is playing great defense and making the league minimum. How angry can you be about that?

 

Doesn't mean he still doesn't suck on offense

Then why did this particular discussion start with fathom saying "He'd be far superior offensively to Morel at 3b"?

 

I think we'd give him a shot at 3b...unless we trade the rest of our starting corner outfielders.

I think we'd give him a shot at 3b...unless we trade the rest of our starting corner outfielders.

Then why have the Brewers not done so when Brent Morel is significantly outproducing their 3b spot?

Then why did this particular discussion start with fathom saying "He'd be far superior offensively to Morel at 3b"?

Let me jump into fathom's melon and figure that one out. Why don't you reply to his posts and ask him that question?

 

Yes, I don't think there's any question that Gamel would hit better than Morel. However, he'd be an abomination fielding the hot corner on a consistent basis.

guy who sits next to me at work is a big Brewers fan and as big a baseball forum nerd as me - said that Mat Gamel is supposedly the Brewers replacement for when Fielder leaves next season and doubts he will be traded unless something good comes back to them from Sox.

Highly unlikely we'd be trading MLBers for him.

Doesn't mean he still doesn't suck on offense

 

All 3 of those guys suck on offense, I am telling you why his case is DIFFERENT. Who are you going to give the more slack to, the guys who are making over $12M a year, doing terrible on offense, are aging veterans in the league, and while one is playing poor defense, the other plays almost NO defense, or the guy who makes league minimum, is doing terrible on offense, is a rookie in the league, and is playing great defense while hitting out of the 9th spot with very little expectations or reliance offensively?

 

It's pretty damn easy to see why people are more pissed off about Rios and Dunn than Brent Morel. Did I really need to spell that out?

I didn't list 3B because it's clear he shouldn't be playing 3b. You stick his ass in the outfield.

Well, that argument would make sense if he hasn't played the vast majority of his career, including at the MLB level, at 3B.

 

And considering the Brewers still haven't made a position change, I think they would be willing to deal with the below average defense at 3B if they thought he would be able to hit at all.

 

I don't think the Brewers think he can hit MLB pitching.

Of course they would put up with his terrible defense, its the Brewers.

Well, that argument would make sense if he hasn't played the vast majority of his career, including at the MLB level, at 3B.

 

And considering the Brewers still haven't made a position change, I think they would be willing to deal with the below average defense at 3B if they thought he would be able to hit at all.

 

I don't think the Brewers think he can hit MLB pitching.

Yeah...with the fact that Casey McGeHee is also rated as below average fielding at 3b (-4.6 career UZR/150), Gamel's defense would have to be worse than has ever been seen by man for him to not make up the difference by putting up an .800 OPS.

Gamel's defense is absolutely horrible. There is no chance he can play 3B or OF. The only position he can play is 1B. Jim Callis of Baseball America had him down as the worst 3b defensive prospect in the minors.

Call me crazy but uh... Carlos Gomez just broke his collarbone. They might need a CF...