Doesn't part of the decision figure into who will be Kenny's "yes man" and won't rock the boat? I don't see Martinez being that guy...

Doesn't part of the decision figure into who will be Kenny's "yes man" and won't rock the boat? I don't see Martinez being that guy...

 

Sandy won't rock any boats.

Isn't he very likeable and very quiet?

I'd much rather have Martinez. Sandy seems like a quite version of Ozzie, a manager that goes with his gut. I want someone who uses statistics to make better decisions.

Sandy called a very good game. Catchers tend to make great managers and I have always said Sandy would be a manager some day. If you have Sandy, you definitely would like to have an experienced bench coach though. I wonder who that would be?

Doesn't part of the decision figure into who will be Kenny's "yes man" and won't rock the boat? I don't see Martinez being that guy...

 

Granted I'm jaded, but aren't we all kidding ourselves here?

 

Do we really think that KW, after years of enduring a wildman manager with whom his relationship soured at least 4 years ago, will be looking for anything BUT a yes-man? After the Ozzie Experience, I think most people--especially with KW's gargantuan ego--is going to do everything in his power to bring in somebody who will NOT rock the boat.

 

This is basic workplace psychology.

 

Unless KW tries that and JR has somebody else in mind and bigfoots KW.

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Granted I'm jaded, but aren't we all kidding ourselves here?

 

Do we really think that KW, after years of enduring a wildman manager with whom his relationship soured at least 4 years ago, will be looking for anything BUT a yes-man? After the Ozzie Experience, I think most people--especially with KW's gargantuan ego--is going to do everything in his power to bring in somebody who will NOT rock the boat.

 

This is basic workplace psychology.

 

Unless KW tries that and JR has somebody else in mind and bigfoots KW.

This is precisely why we're all kidding ourselves to think Martinez will be the guy, as much as we may want him, because I don't believe he's a yes man. Alomar it is

Sandy called a very good game. Catchers tend to make great managers and I have always said Sandy would be a manager some day. If you have Sandy, you definitely would like to have an experienced bench coach though. I wonder who that would be?

 

See: Mike Scioscia

Sandy called a very good game. Catchers tend to make great managers and I have always said Sandy would be a manager some day. If you have Sandy, you definitely would like to have an experienced bench coach though. I wonder who that would be?

 

John Mclaren, Sandy Alomar Sr or Buddy Bell

This is precisely why we're all kidding ourselves to think Martinez will be the guy, as much as we may want him, because I don't believe he's a yes man. Alomar it is

 

I have no beefs with Sandy. Bring him in.

This is precisely why we're all kidding ourselves to think Martinez will be the guy, as much as we may want him, because I don't believe he's a yes man. Alomar it is

 

How the hell do you know if they are yes men or not?

Well, it's not Sandy as he's staying on as Acta's bench coach. Now what? Martinez and who?

Well, it's not Sandy as he's staying on as Acta's bench coach. Now what? Martinez and who?

 

Wow. It must be Martinez then who they are targeting.

Well, it's not Sandy as he's staying on as Acta's bench coach. Now what? Martinez and who?

 

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2011/09/28/s...5lEV614.twitter

 

DETROIT (92.3 The Fan) – As the season nears it’s final hours in Detroit, the Cleveland Indians have already announced a move next year in their coaching ranks.

 

The team announced today that bench coach Tim Tolman will not be back in 2012, and his place on the bench will be taken by popular former Indian and current first base coach Sandy Alomar Jr. The team stated the move between Tolman and the team was mutual.

 

Tolman has been with the Indians for two seasons, brought over from Seattle where he was their coordinator of instruction. He was hired by Indians manager, Manny Acta, under whom Tolman had coached in Washington.

 

The relationship between Tolman and Acta goes back to 1991, when Acta played for Tolman, who was managing the Burlington Astros of the Midwest League. Acta later served on Tolman’s coaching staff.

 

“He’s a very bright baseball mind. I feel very comfortable with Tim,” Acta said when he hired him in 2010. “He managed me in the minor leagues. I feel like he’s a guy that can really help me. He’s never been afraid to talk to me, and that is very important for a bench coach. He’s also very familiar with our system, which we took into consideration.”

 

Tolman played seven major league seasons, five with the Houston Astros and two with the Detroit Tigers. His MLB career saw him hit just .168 for his career, never batting higher than the .196 he posted in 1983. He played two more seasons in the International League before retiring and going into coaching.

 

Alomar’s name had already started popping up for possible coaching jobs elsewhere in the Majors. The Chicago White Sox, who traded their manager Ozzie Guillen to the Florida Marlins for two minor league players, will need a coach, and there’s likely to be other openings as well once the season officially ends tomorrow.

 

“I’m definitely interested, if anyone calls,” Alomar said on Tuesday. “But I don’t want to elaborate on stuff like that, though. That’s it. I have nothing else to say.”

 

Acta was asked about Alomar’s managerial skills before Tuesday’s game against the Tigers, and said even though he has yet to be a manager at any level in baseball, he thinks Alomar has what it takes to be a leader.

 

“Sandy, even when he played, he showed that he had leadership skills,” Acta said. “He’s a guy who prepares himself very well and he’s one of those guys that, not only was a very good player, but has shown a passion to coach. A lot of those guys just disappear into the sunset and go home.”

Well, it's not Sandy as he's staying on as Acta's bench coach. Now what? Martinez and who?

 

I don't see anywhere that says he's taken his name out from consideration.

With the current state of the Sox, the managerial job is not a good one. Due to the success of the Rays, Martinez will get to pick his spot (Cubs?)

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Sandy Alomar Jr. will move from 1B coach duties to bench coach role for 2012 (unless he replaces Ozzie in Chicago, that is).

 

With the current state of the Sox, the managerial job is not a good one. Due to the success of the Rays, Martinez will get to pick his spot (Cubs?)

Oh ya cause the current state of the Cubs is magnificent.

With the current state of the Sox, the managerial job is not a good one. Due to the success of the Rays, Martinez will get to pick his spot (Cubs?)

 

the White Sox are a much more desirable destination than the cubs

 

There is no proof that Ricketts will spend money and look to improve the cubs situation

 

what vacant jobs will be more desirable...maybe Boston.

Oh ya cause the current state of the Cubs is magnificent.

Yeah they are the last team anyone wants to manage.

 

I think its clear its Tito or Martinez

 

and Frankly I like both.

With the current state of the Sox, the managerial job is not a good one. Due to the success of the Rays, Martinez will get to pick his spot (Cubs?)

 

Ala Dave Wannstedt. Still not sold that just because he's been in Maddon's jock for the past few years that he's THE s***! I'll still take Alomar...

I don't see anywhere that says he's taken his name out from consideration.

Good point. I'm all excitable, it's been a while since I really gave a s*** about the Sox. Accept a promotion within your current organization then go interview for managerial positions, if you don't get job then you still have that nice promotion to fall back on.

Yeah they are the last team anyone wants to manage.

 

I think its clear its Tito or Martinez

 

and Frankly I like both.

 

hope KW doesn't f*** up and hire Tino Martinez

Ala Dave Wannstedt. Still not sold that just because he's been in Maddon's jock for the past few years that he's THE s***! I'll still take Alomar...

 

Maddon is arguably the best manager in baseball and uses stats to all the moves he makes. While there is no certainty having a pupil of his can not hurt.

 

What has Alomar done to prove he is better than Martinez? The guy was a firstbase coach.

 

I am fine with either.

Maddon is arguably the best manager in baseball and uses stats to all the moves he makes. While there is no certainty having a pupil of his can not hurt.

 

What has Alomar done to prove he is better than Martinez? The guy was a firstbase coach.

 

I am fine with either.

Why is he the best manager in baseball?

Why is he the best manager in baseball?

 

Because Billy Beane had a movie made of himself and he accomplished much less and MLB Network said so.

 

 

 

How the hell do you know if they are yes men or not?

When you take the star ballplayers wife for yourself and show her who is the boss in the bedroom, you are hardly a yes man in my book. /end argument