Anyone catch the shot at Peavy in Gonzales' recent Tribune piece discussing the marketing efforts?

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,1788782.story

 

 

 

Awesome. Oh how I despise you Jake Peavy.

Seems pretty obvious to me that was either referring to ALL the underachievers - Dunn, Rios, Peavy, Beckham... or possibly only the uninjured ones, meaning that group minus Peavy. Either way, I don't see how you can possibly see that as being a knock on Peavy specifically. Given your apparent hatred, I'd suspect it was just wishful thinking.

 

Seems pretty obvious to me that was either referring to ALL the underachievers - Dunn, Rios, Peavy, Beckham... or possibly only the uninjured ones, meaning that group minus Peavy. Either way, I don't see how you can possibly see that as being a knock on Peavy specifically. Given your apparent hatred, I'd suspect it was just wishful thinking.

 

Last off-season Peavy directly stated that if the Sox intended to rebuild, he would prefer to be traded as he went through that in San Diego. Fast forward to this year's winter meetings. An "anonymous" veteran player once again states that if the Sox are going to rebuild, he wants to be traded. AJ, PK, and Thornton have come out and said they want to stay. From there, the list narrows considerably. I'm not the only one with said guess. Jim Margalus has posted such as well.

Edited December 13, 201114 yr by DirtySox

Last off-season Peavy directly stated that if the Sox intended to rebuild, he would prefer to be traded as he went through that in San Diego. Fast forward to this year's winter meetings. An "anonymous" veteran player once again states that if the Sox are going to rebuild, he wants to be traded. AJ, PK, and Thornton have come out and said they want to stay. From there, the list narrows considerably. I'm not the only one with said guess. Jim Margalus has posted such as well. It's quite obvious.

 

FWIW, that rumor came from Jay Cowley, and no one else.

FWIW, that rumor came from Jay Cowley, and no one else.

 

I'm aware, but Mark Gonzales' comment at the end of the article seems to extend directly from such a rumor. I'll reach out to him and get his opinion in a bit.

Saito getting 1.75 million on the open market pisses me off even more about Frasor's terrible option being picked up.

Saito getting 1.75 million on the open market pisses me off even more about Frasor's terrible option being picked up.

I don't think Frasor's option is terrible, it is probably a decent value for his skills. I just think it wasn't the right move for this team this offseason.

 

I don't think Frasor's option is terrible, it is probably a decent value for his skills. I just think it wasn't the right move for this team this offseason.

 

So he's worth two times more than Saito? It was a terrible move by KW, in my opinion. Should have just let him go. Hell, he couldn't even be trusted for the Sox last year after a few weeks.

So he's worth two times more than Saito? It was a terrible move by KW, in my opinion. Should have just let him go. Hell, he couldn't even be trusted for the Sox last year after a few weeks.

I agree he should not have picked up the option, I even said beforehand there was little chance they would. And was wrong. Doesn't make sense to me, as I think the Sox still, even without Frasor, have a fair amount of depth in bullpen arms both in the majors and minors.

 

Saito getting 1.75 million on the open market pisses me off even more about Frasor's terrible option being picked up.

 

I wonder more why Saito only got so little? LaTroy got $3, Rauch got $3.5. He's better than both of them. His highest ERA in a season is 2.83. (I realize relief ERA isn't the best statistic, but it's still impressive)

I wonder more why Saito only got so little? LaTroy got $3, Rauch got $3.5. He's better than both of them. His highest ERA in a season is 2.83. (I realize relief ERA isn't the best statistic, but it's still impressive)

Presumably the fact that he only threw 26 innings last year and didn't pitch much until July has something to do with it.

Presumably the fact that he only threw 26 innings last year and didn't pitch much until July has something to do with it.

 

I guess so, but the injury was a calf/hamstring problem, not any arm issues that could cause concern. He came back in mid July and was lights out. Just surprised that he cost AZ so little.

Presumably the fact that he only threw 26 innings last year and didn't pitch much until July has something to do with it.

 

His injury history is the big reason he got so little money in general. It makes a comparison with Frasor moot.

His injury history is the big reason he got so little money in general. It makes a comparison with Frasor moot.

 

I don't think I realized he was gonna be 42 next season.

His injury history is the big reason he got so little money in general. It makes a comparison with Frasor moot.

 

What injury history are you referring to outside of his leg problem last year? Seemed pretty healthy in 2009 and 2010 in order to throw over 50 innings.

What injury history are you referring to outside of his leg problem last year? Seemed pretty healthy in 2009 and 2010 in order to throw over 50 innings.

 

Besides that he has had shoulder and elbow problems since being in the US, plus he had injury problems in Japan too.

Besides that he has had shoulder and elbow problems since being in the US, plus he had injury problems in Japan too.

 

And that injury history has resulted in him probably being one of the most underrated players in the last 5-10 years (2.18 ERA during his career).

And that injury history has resulted in him probably being one of the most underrated players in the last 5-10 years (2.18 ERA during his career).

 

I guess that makes Carlos Quentin underrated and a bargain too?

I guess that makes Carlos Quentin underrated and a bargain too?

 

I asked before..how many times has he been on the DL the last few years for these arm issues? Oh, and yes, I think Quentin is underrated and some team should really try to get him right now.

I asked before..how many times has he been on the DL the last few years for these arm issues? Oh, and yes, I think Quentin is underrated and some team should really try to get him right now.

It looks like at least three times over the last two years, but I can't seem to find somewhere that lists them all.

I wonder if teams are waiting to see who wins the claim on Yu Darvish before anyone commits to a Danks or Floyd trade. Wishful thinking?

I wonder if teams are waiting to see who wins the claim on Yu Darvish before anyone commits to a Danks or Floyd trade. Wishful thinking?

 

Makes total sense

I wonder if teams are waiting to see who wins the claim on Yu Darvish before anyone commits to a Danks or Floyd trade. Wishful thinking?

 

Not at all, and it's one of the reasons I don't understand why people are upset that neither of them has moved already. To maximize return, you have to cater to the market. The best time to move our guys is when they're the best remaining guys on the market.

Interesting "retweet" by Beckham just now....

 

“@cst_Cowley:Beckham can be a standout player. I just don't know if that can happen with the Sox. He's too in his own head.” @gordonbeckham

1 hour ago via Twitter for iPhone

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I wonder why he would retweet that. Does he think he has some mental issues, or does he think he might need to move to a different team before he can become a standout player? Hmmm....

Beckham immediately replied to Cowley saying "WE WILL SEE JOE"

Beckham immediately replied to Cowley saying "WE WILL SEE JOE"

 

and....

 

@gordonbeckham

Gordon Beckham

“@BWBdaBRONCO: Beckham why are you givin a RT to sum1 who's saying you can't excel....CAUSE IM GOING TO PROVE HIM WRONG! boom