Hakeem also only won a title in the years that Jordan didnt play.

 

Hakeem also never won a NCAA title, even though he was on the Phi Slamma Jamma team.

 

There are maybe 5-10 players who have a legitimate claim to being the best ever.

Is Gordon a restricted free agent?

This year, yes, so qualifying offer to him.

 

If he really doesn't want to play in NOLA, which is also possible, he could play out the season on the QO and become an unrestricted FA, maybe for even more money if he has a good year. After only playing 9 games this season, that might not be a bad idea on the surface anyway, unless he believes he can't stay healthy.

He had clyde didnt he?

 

Only for the 2nd title. But he had Big Shot Bob for both titles, so that automatically disqualifies him from this discussion.

Only for the 2nd title. But he had Big Shot Bob for both titles, so that automatically disqualifies him from this discussion.

 

It's not like Horry was a great player, plus he was a rookie in 94.

It's not like Horry was a great player, plus he was a rookie in 94.

 

7 titles, Q. SEVEN Titles! His Wikipedia page has its own section just for all the clutch shots he hit.

It's not like Horry was a great player, plus he was a rookie in 94.

Their #2 scorer was Otis Thorpe.

It's not like Horry was a great player, plus he was a rookie in 94.

 

Horry was as close to great as you could get. He was Pippen-lite

Horry was as close to great as you could get. He was Pippen-lite

Anyone that averaged 7 ppg in a career is pretty far from great.

Horry was as close to great as you could get. He was Pippen-lite

 

He was Pippen without the migraine.

7 titles, Q. SEVEN Titles! His Wikipedia page has its own section just for all the clutch shots he hit.

 

Best role player of all time for sure. But not an all-star, all-nba, or HoF player. The point is, Hakeem is the goat using Salley logic.

Anyone that averaged 7 ppg in a career is pretty far from great.

 

This is one time where i will say his ppg does not show what kind of a player he was. He was pretty key for multiple championship teams

Missile tracking cameras are now gathering data on NBA players:

 

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670059/moneyb...emaking-the-nba

 

Kevin Durant's guarded attempts:

 

Where he reliably makes shots:

Missile tracking cameras are now gathering data on NBA players:

 

http://www.fastcodesign.com/1670059/moneyb...emaking-the-nba

 

Kevin Durant's guarded attempts:

 

Where he reliably makes shots:

 

Really cool stuff.

There are rumors Bynum is available for the right deal... What about Deng+ for Bynum and that Noah for Evans and #5 rumor..

 

As I stated before I like the fact Evans worked with a "shot doc" then improved his shooting significantly after. He's also versatile, he played PG and SF last year and can obviously play SG, with that if Barnes is off the board when we're up at 5 we can grab a Bradley Beal and play Evans at the 3.

 

I'm fine with keeping things the same, but I enjoy speculating as well.

There are rumors Bynum is available for the right deal... What about Deng+ for Bynum and that Noah for Evans and #5 rumor..

 

As I stated before I like the fact Evans worked with a "shot doc" then improved his shooting significantly after. He's also versatile, he played PG and SF last year and can obviously play SG, with that if Barnes is off the board when we're up at 5 we can grab a Bradley Beal and play Evans at the 3.

 

I'm fine with keeping things the same, but I enjoy speculating as well.

 

As much as Joakim gets hurt, Bynum makes Joakim look like he's always healthy.

As much as Joakim gets hurt, Bynum makes Joakim look like he's always healthy.

 

He also doesn't seem like the type that would work in Thibs system very well.

As long as Rose is here, Noah is here unless a superstar is on the other end of the trade.

Sooooo....OKC bringing it back home tonight or is it all over?

There are rumors Bynum is available for the right deal... What about Deng+ for Bynum and that Noah for Evans and #5 rumor..

 

As I stated before I like the fact Evans worked with a "shot doc" then improved his shooting significantly after. He's also versatile, he played PG and SF last year and can obviously play SG, with that if Barnes is off the board when we're up at 5 we can grab a Bradley Beal and play Evans at the 3.

 

I'm fine with keeping things the same, but I enjoy speculating as well.

 

Why would the Lakers ever make that trade?

 

They were rumored to trade Bynum straight up for Howard, now they'll trade him for Deng "+"?

 

I don't think there's anything on this roster that gets you Bynum except for Rose. Deng is an often injured above average player, they don't need Noah, or Gibson, and that's all we have of any value.

There are rumors Bynum is available for the right deal...

I would imagine that the "right deal" is Dwight Howard.

I don't think Bynum would work out here. Big egos + laziness + Thibodeau = explosion

 

 

I don't think Bulls fan understand how valuable Joakim Noah is. Guys that big, that work that hard, play defense like that, score a few points, are not that easy to find. This is why almost every team has some 7 foot guy that can hardly play basketball on their bench.

There are rumors Bynum is available for the right deal... What about Deng+ for Bynum and that Noah for Evans and #5 rumor..

 

As I stated before I like the fact Evans worked with a "shot doc" then improved his shooting significantly after. He's also versatile, he played PG and SF last year and can obviously play SG, with that if Barnes is off the board when we're up at 5 we can grab a Bradley Beal and play Evans at the 3.

 

I'm fine with keeping things the same, but I enjoy speculating as well.

Biggest problem? Bynum is an unrestricted free agent after next season. I still have trouble seeing how it makes sense for the Bulls to play for next season if Rose misses 2/3 of the year and is never 100%. Thus, the net result of this deal could be "clearing cap space and getting no players in return, while sitting on Rose's big contract and having nothing to show for it".

Biggest problem? Bynum is an unrestricted free agent after next season. I still have trouble seeing how it makes sense for the Bulls to play for next season if Rose misses 2/3 of the year and is never 100%. Thus, the net result of this deal could be "clearing cap space and getting no players in return, while sitting on Rose's big contract and having nothing to show for it".

 

Unless he resigned, it doesn't make sense.

For the current Bulls, Noah would fill the Rodman role in that he's versatile (and good) defensively, hustles, and grabs boards. Rose fills the Jordan role. The problem si there's no Pippen or Kukoc to take pressure off of Rose with shot creating.

 

Obviously, that was not saying that Noah is Rodman or Rose is Jordan, just their roles, for anyone who wants to freak out about it.

 

But anyone that wants to talk about how valuable Deng is, lets remember that he wasn't this current iteration of Deng until Thibs showed up. The old Deng is basically gone, he doesn't slash nearly as much and doesn't have the lethal midrange shot anymore. But, he became a better three point shooter and defender. I think that's a result of Thibs, so I think Thibs could do that with Barnes, though Barnes will most likely be taken by Cleveland, since Washington will probably take Beal now.

 

Meanwhile, Noah's are incredibly rare, because he is the perfect center for Rose. He can run the floor with Rose, pass, hustles, etc.

Edited June 21, 201213 yr by Quinarvy

Sooooo....OKC bringing it back home tonight or is it all over?

 

If they do bring it back, there's still some hope.