Do you think Ventura has any clue that Ohman is actually our best reliever against lefties?

+1

The problem is not the stuff as much as the fact that he just seems to swing at everything with the same exact swing. There doesn't seem to be any recognition for pitch location.

So much for trading Matt Thornton this year.

 

He deserves those boos after how he's pitched recently.

Matt Thornton I hate your face

 

6 million for a s***ty set-up man

This is what happens when you score 1 run against a mop-up pitcher.

This. If you can't give up 2 runs in a game to win, its going to be a long season.

The problem is not the stuff as much as the fact that he just seems to swing at everything with the same exact swing. There doesn't seem to be any recognition for pitch location.

 

Agreed, he swings over the top of nearly every fastball he's able to make contact with.

This is what happens when you score 1 run against a mop-up pitcher.

 

 

No offense means you can't make any mistakes and we did yesterday and today.

 

I think that kid had no average too

This is what happens when you score 1 run against a mop-up pitcher.

 

True. It was just a matter of time.

I hope MT is shipped of soon he is not getting the job done anymore.

 

Who would pay $12 million (and has the room on their payroll) for a mid 30's relief pitcher who's clearly a one trick pony?

 

At best, you can just dump most of his salary, but getting anything decent back in terms of a prospect? Forget it.

 

Giavatello was something like 8/19 against us last year and he's continuing that trend this season.

Edited May 13, 201213 yr by caulfield12

Who would pay $12 million (and has the room on their payroll) for a mid 30's relief pitcher who's clearly a one trick pony?

 

At best, you can just dump most of his salary, but getting anything decent back in terms of a prospect? Forget it.

The king of overreaction.

Who would pay $12 million (and has the room on their payroll) for a mid 30's relief pitcher who's clearly a one trick pony?

 

At best, you can just dump most of his salary, but getting anything decent back in terms of a prospect? Forget it.

KW would not know a decent prospect anyway, what's the difference what Sox get back!

Who would pay $12 million (and has the room on their payroll) for a mid 30's relief pitcher who's clearly a one trick pony?

 

At best, you can just dump most of his salary, but getting anything decent back in terms of a prospect? Forget it.

 

Giavatello was something like 8/19 against us last year and he's continuing that trend this season.

If I was a competitive team, Me.

The king of overreaction.

That time of the thread. Now everyone gets to unload. It's fun!

I'm out after that play by Escobar.

If Sox don't rally to win this game, they've proven again they can't get up for the s*** of the Central Division. Losing 2 of 3 would be bad.

KC continues to abuse the Sox.

I'm out after that play by Escobar.

If Sox don't rally to win this game, they've proven again they can't get up for the s*** of the Central Division. Losing 2 of 3 would be bad.

You're not out, that'd make you 19x in, because you'd get to gloat, and that's what you're waiting for.

I'm out after that play by Escobar.

If Sox don't rally to win this game, they've proven again they can't get up for the s*** of the Central Division. Losing 2 of 3 would be bad.

 

So sad to see you go. Goodbye

If Paulie isn't on fire, the Sox offense is offensive.

Bottom of their order doing their job today.

If Paulie isn't on fire, the Sox offense is offensive.

 

IIRC, very few homers at home with men on base

IIRC, very few homers at home with men on base

According to this year's BP, USCF has gone from hitter's haven to exactly neutral.

Okay, fine.

 

I just wake up to listen to the freakin' game and two minutes after I turn it on, Matt Thornton does that?

 

Great, he's the best left-handed set-up guy in the history of the game.

 

Every hitter who has touched him up this season and last was just extremely lucky. He could probably get us back 2 Top 100 prospects, and that would be a steal for another team just to get away with that, possibly they'd need to trade another bench guy to replace Escobar to go with the prospects.

 

Matt Thornton's velocity isn't down. He actually should be the closer over Addison Reed, because all of his blown saves are just bad luck these last two seasons.

 

The more I think about it, the less the luxury tax matters for the Red Sox because they're right back in the AL East race...

Edited May 13, 201213 yr by caulfield12

According to this year's BP, USCF has gone from hitter's haven to exactly neutral.

 

All the empty seats in the bleachers must cause the wind to blow in

Thornton's issue isn't his stuff, it's that he's not elevating pitches out of the zone when he gets two strikes. Very similar to what we saw from Sale in the first inning yesterday.

Yes, that's it.

 

If we had better attendance and fewer boos, Matt Thornton would pitch better at home.

 

It's all because of the lack of fan support at home that's causing us to be 5-10 at home or whatever our record is.