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John Danks surgery/rehab/recovery thread

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 11:58 AM)
He's not owed "over $60M".

 

What's he owed?

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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 12:10 PM)
What's he owed?

 

Don't you think you should know this if you are going to bring it up? This is basically you admitting that you make stuff up.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 04:56 PM)
Unless he gets trade to Detroit or something...

 

 

WHHHHHHHAAAAAATTTTTTTT! :lol: :hawk: :hawk:

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 01:10 PM)
What's he owed?

Currently $57 million ($14.25 million a year for the next 4 years)

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 12:18 PM)
Don't you think you should know this if you are going to bring it up? This is basically you admitting that you make stuff up.

 

You're right.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 11:41 AM)
Your spreadsheet is wrong.

 

There is an old saying that your posts always stir in my head...

 

"A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing."

QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 11:59 AM)
There is an old saying that your posts always stir in my head...

 

"A little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing."

Guys it's close to $60M, quit trying to make something out of nothing here.

I would consider doing it for a little while regardless of how he feels -- give Q and Hector a chance to battle it out for slot no. 5

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 06:51 PM)
Guys it's close to $60M, quit trying to make something out of nothing here.

 

 

Exactly... let's get on with baseball. You both win. Round up it's $60M and don't round up and it's $57M :D

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QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Mar 16, 2013 -> 01:51 PM)
Guys it's close to $60M, quit trying to make something out of nothing here.

 

It's called counterbalancing the obvious and constant negative exaggerations.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 09:59 AM)
It's called counterbalancing the obvious and constant negative exaggerations.

 

It wasn't my spreadsheet that I posted Danks salary from, it was from Baseball Prospectus Cot's Baseball Contracts. Baseball Reference has a different number for Danks. You tell me which one is right.

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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 10:13 AM)
It wasn't my spreadsheet that I posted Danks salary from, it was from Baseball Prospectus Cot's Baseball Contracts. Baseball Reference has a different number for Danks. You tell me which one is right.

They both show $14.25 million a year from 2013 to 2016. That's $57 million remaining. What am I missing here?

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 10:26 AM)
They both show $14.25 million a year from 2013 to 2016. That's $57 million remaining. What am I missing here?

 

I'm clicking on the 2013-18 payroll obligation link from the Sox page. That's where it shows Danks at $15.75M. It's updated because it shows Sale's numbers.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 10:36 AM)
I'm clicking on the 2013-18 payroll obligation link from the Sox page. That's where it shows Danks at $15.75M. It's updated because it shows Sale's numbers.

I can't find that, but either way that's because of a signing bonus ($7.5 million) that was paid in 2012 and represented 2012 salary (it was simply deferred a few months). It should not be included in the 2013 to 2016 salary figures.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 11:01 AM)
I can't find that, but either way that's because of a signing bonus ($7.5 million) that was paid in 2012 and represented 2012 salary (it was simply deferred a few months). It should not be included in the 2013 to 2016 salary figures.

 

Link to spreadsheet on Cot's site. Whether it's $57M or $63M it doesn't make a difference. It certainly wasn't an attempt by me to exaggerate the number to make it more negative. I think we all agree the contact is bad enough at $57M.

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It's not bad if he pitches like a 2 or 3 starter.

 

He's young, and left-handed. If he's nothing better than a 5 and Jose Quintana or Santiago pushes him out of the rotation or he goes Jim Parque (minus the steroids) on the Sox, then, yeah...it's really really bad, but nothing like Barry Zito bad.

 

That's the problem when you're paying Peavy, Danks, Konerko, Dunn and Rios that kind of money. If two or three of them struggle, you're in a world of hurt.

 

That said, putting all your eggs in the Josh Hamilton or Greinke basket is even asking for more trouble than spreading your risk amongst 5 players.

 

 

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 09:59 AM)
It's called counterbalancing the obvious and constant negative exaggerations.

 

Is that what it's called? I thought it was you just being smug and condescending again.

 

$57MM? $60MM? Does it really make a difference?

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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 11:11 AM)
Link to spreadsheet on Cot's site. Whether it's $57M or $63M it doesn't make a difference. It certainly wasn't an attempt by me to exaggerate the number to make it more negative. I think we all agree the contact is bad enough at $57M.

 

If John Danks is healthy, it isn't anywhere near a bad contract. Have you see the contracts handed out to pitchers lately?

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QUOTE (Pants Rowland @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 11:26 AM)
Is that what it's called? I thought it was you just being smug and condescending again.

 

$57MM? $60MM? Does it really make a difference?

 

Call it what you like. When information is consistently misrepresented, I am going to correct it.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 11:48 AM)
If John Danks is healthy, it isn't anywhere near a bad contract. Have you see the contracts handed out to pitchers lately?

 

John Danks isn't healthy.

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QUOTE (Marty34 @ Mar 17, 2013 -> 11:49 AM)
John Danks isn't healthy.

 

According to who?

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