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So what type of 3rd baseman do we need?

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QUOTE (Baron @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 02:34 PM)
I have seen nothing to suggest that

 

There have been reports that he did not particularly care for being in Chicago nor did the team particularly care for him being here. You say all the right things in the public eye but I too do not believe there is a lot of mutual interest in renewing their relationship. It doesn't mean both parties won't explore it.

 

I'd put Youkilis coming back to the Sox at about 10%.

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Youkilis might not have liked it but he sure performed well.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 03:04 PM)
There have been reports that he did not particularly care for being in Chicago nor did the team particularly care for him being here. You say all the right things in the public eye but I too do not believe there is a lot of mutual interest in renewing their relationship. It doesn't mean both parties won't explore it.

 

I'd put Youkilis coming back to the Sox at about 10%.

 

From all prior reports I had seen, it had seemed that Youkilis was a giant horse's ass off the field, so everything you say sounds about right.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 03:37 PM)
From all prior reports I had seen, it had seemed that Youkilis was a giant horse's ass off the field, so everything you say sounds about right.

 

 

I don't know if I even want him back... not much was made of this but in the middle of an important stretch run in the last 2 weeks (i believe) youkilis missed 3 straight games due to the birth of his child. I understand 1 game, but come on, you got a job and it's the MOST IMPORTANT time to do your job. Not to mention you get paid $13M a year to do your job... No excuses and I don't want to hear any sympathy. Anyone else who tries to compare their job, please dont forget he gets significant off time while the season is over, which ended even earlier due in part to his absence from those games.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 03:04 PM)
There have been reports that he did not particularly care for being in Chicago nor did the team particularly care for him being here. You say all the right things in the public eye but I too do not believe there is a lot of mutual interest in renewing their relationship. It doesn't mean both parties won't explore it.

 

I'd put Youkilis coming back to the Sox at about 10%.

 

I see....Ill hold judgement I hear something definitive on that.

QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 07:10 PM)
Because having a 2B and 3B who can't hit is somehow better than a 3B and 2B who can't hit?

 

 

You are much to critiical

QUOTE (Special K @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 03:42 PM)
I don't know if I even want him back... not much was made of this but in the middle of an important stretch run in the last 2 weeks (i believe) youkilis missed 3 straight games due to the birth of his child. I understand 1 game, but come on, you got a job and it's the MOST IMPORTANT time to do your job. Not to mention you get paid $13M a year to do your job... No excuses and I don't want to hear any sympathy. Anyone else who tries to compare their job, please dont forget he gets significant off time while the season is over, which ended even earlier due in part to his absence from those games.

 

This did upset quite a few on the ballclub.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 03:37 PM)
From all prior reports I had seen, it had seemed that Youkilis was a giant horse's ass off the field, so everything you say sounds about right.

 

 

How so?

QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 04:43 PM)
How so?

 

From what was always hinted at on various media reports was that while Youkilis does give 110% on the field, in the clubhouse its's all about "me, myself, & I".

I think Youk would be the best option as they need someone who has power, but more importantly can get on base. I'm hoping after a full offseason with the team, he can come back to his normal self next year.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 02:21 PM)
I think Youk has zero interest in staying with the Chicago White Sox.

I don't say this often, but... I completely agree with Steve9347. I got that same impression.

 

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 03:28 PM)
Youkilis might not have liked it but he sure performed well.

Did he? Without looking it up, it seemed like he had a couple good weeks, then tailed off sharply. Not to mention he's pretty awful defensively. He can work a count and hit some homers. I'd rather have a guy who puts the ball in play more and can really pick it though.

I want actual links showing how big of an arse Youkilis was. Also, saw the Moustakas wish lists on Facebook, why the hard on for this guy unless we dumped Floyd to get him?

I liked Youk. I won't be sad if we don't bring him back. His health is a huge concern and I'm not sure that he wants to continue being a third baseman.

3B Free agent list is super thin. I dont want any of these bums.

 

Miguel Cairo (39)

Eric Chavez (35)

Mark DeRosa (38)

Alberto Gonzalez (30)

Orlando Hudson (35)

Brandon Inge (36)

Maicer Izturis (32)

Adam Kennedy (37)

Jeff Keppinger (33)

Jose Lopez (29)

Casey McGehee (30)

Placido Polanco (37)

Scott Rolen (38)

Drew Sutton (30)

Ty Wigginton (35)

Kevin Youkilis (34)Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/2013...YyvrzzKYs5By.99

Edited by joeynach

The Sox biggest offensive problem as Joe Sheehan pointed out numerous times is that they are a team with decent power, but no team OBP. So when the cold stretches come you get what you saw the last 20 games or so. A bunch of games with 1 or 2 runs on 6 hits. They can't produce enough baserunners naturally, which is why when stuff went bad in Sept you saw RV press, and do things he hadn't done all year before....such as playing every inning with a baserunner for 1 run, sac bunts, straight steals, and hit and runs with power hitters coming up.

 

The needs to focus on team OBP. They are basically set at LF, CF, RF, SS, 2B, 1B, and DH. So they would be wise to focus on getting the best OBP they can out of their opening at 3B and C. Whether that combo of players is in house, via trade, or via free agency, well thats Hahn's job now, but thats the strategy I would hope the Sox take from an offensive perspective.

I saw most of the Rockies' games this, year, and, boy, do they need pitching. They also have three young infielders who can all play third very well and they can hit. They also have a new GM who is probably afraid to pull the trigger, but one of these three guys would most likely be available for pitching. They are all better than anything we have, including Morel and Youk.

PLAYER/Coach Robin Ventura.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 07:31 PM)
3B Free agent list is super thin. I dont want any of these bums.

 

Miguel Cairo (39)

Eric Chavez (35)

Mark DeRosa (38)

Alberto Gonzalez (30)

Orlando Hudson (35)

Brandon Inge (36)

Maicer Izturis (32)

Adam Kennedy (37)

Jeff Keppinger (33)

Jose Lopez (29)

Casey McGehee (30)

Placido Polanco (37)

Scott Rolen (38)

Drew Sutton (30)

Ty Wigginton (35)

Kevin Youkilis (34)Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/2013...YyvrzzKYs5By.99

 

I like Chavez.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 07:13 PM)
I saw most of the Rockies' games this, year, and, boy, do they need pitching. They also have three young infielders who can all play third very well and they can hit. They also have a new GM who is probably afraid to pull the trigger, but one of these three guys would most likely be available for pitching. They are all better than anything we have, including Morel and Youk.

 

Could they use Adam Dunn?

 

QUOTE (chw42 @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 09:35 PM)
I like Chavez.

 

He's a much, much bigger health risk than Youkilis. With a platoon partner, he'd be OK, but I don't see any other way.

Youk stunk down the stretch and he's not getting any younger. Let him go.

Is there any way Morel can play next year with the bad back? I'd go with him.

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The Sox biggest offensive problem as Joe Sheehan pointed out numerous times is that they are a team with decent power, but no team OBP. So when the cold stretches come you get what you saw the last 20 games or so. A bunch of games with 1 or 2 runs on 6 hits. They can't produce enough baserunners naturally, which is why when stuff went bad in Sept you saw RV press, and do things he hadn't done all year before....such as playing every inning with a baserunner for 1 run, sac bunts, straight steals, and hit and runs with power hitters coming up.

 

The needs to focus on team OBP. They are basically set at LF, CF, RF, SS, 2B, 1B, and DH. So they would be wise to focus on getting the best OBP they can out of their opening at 3B and C. Whether that combo of players is in house, via trade, or via free agency, well thats Hahn's job now, but thats the strategy I would hope the Sox take from an offensive perspective.

 

You are right, except that the OBP was terrible at LF, SS, and 2B, and only decent at RF. I would not say that they are "set" at those positions. There needs to be a bigger shakeup to the lineup than just replacing Youk and AJ.

 

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QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 31, 2012 -> 07:31 PM)
3B Free agent list is super thin. I dont want any of these bums.

 

Miguel Cairo (39)

Eric Chavez (35)

Mark DeRosa (38)

Alberto Gonzalez (30)

Orlando Hudson (35)

Brandon Inge (36)

Maicer Izturis (32)

Adam Kennedy (37)

Jeff Keppinger (33)

Jose Lopez (29)

Casey McGehee (30)

Placido Polanco (37)

Scott Rolen (38)

Drew Sutton (30)

Ty Wigginton (35)

Kevin Youkilis (34)Read more at http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/04/2013...YyvrzzKYs5By.99

 

Don't know much about any of these guys now, but Polanco used to be pretty good. Does anyone know if he still has anything left? Could he be a legit contact hitter and bat 2nd anymore?

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