I don't think Viciedo blows

His 96 OPS+ disagrees.

 

If you can get someone to give up anything for Viciedo, please do.

His 96 OPS+ disagrees.

 

If you can get someone to give up anything for Viciedo, please do.

 

Braves seem eager to pick up an OF. Maybe they would be willing to pay/overpay for Viciedo. That or De Aza, if he is truly available. Hell, maybe you could even unload Rios to them if you sent along some cash, too. Just thinking out loud here since there is no real action to speak of with the Sox. Such an uneventful offseason. Anyone know what/who the Braves might be willing to part with?

His 96 OPS+ disagrees.

 

If you can get someone to give up anything for Viciedo, please do.

Wow, you're really going to say a guy blows based on one full season worth of stats. I guess if you don't put up Mike Trout or Bryce Harper stats your rookie year then you're worthless and have no chance of improving.

Are the reports true that Swisher exited Chicago becasue Ozzie didn't like his showboat attitude?

I've heard it was more prominent players that he rubbed the wrong way. Ozzie obviously was one of the culprits, but there are several players that Ozzie hasnt liked that stayed.

There was a point where Swisher would hit a homerun and not get one high five

 

That's a planned thing...but the thing is usually it's a prank that lasts maybe 30 seconds or so....not in this case

There was a point where Swisher would hit a homerun and not get one high five

 

That's a planned thing...but the thing is usually it's a prank that lasts maybe 30 seconds or so....not in this case

That is not true. As long as Toby Hall was in the dugout, Swisher got at least one high five.

His 96 OPS+ disagrees.

 

If you can get someone to give up anything for Viciedo, please do.

Yeah, the Sox should use history to show them that 23 year olds that put up a 96 suck. We had to put up with Maggs all those years when his first full season 94 should have clued the Sox in he was no good, and Ventura's 83 his first full season was obviously a sign of things to come.

Toby Hall was more a fan of giving someone the high pie

 

When he injured himself throwing a pie on television, I laughed 1000 laughs.

I was joking...

 

 

Maybe so but Nick can play the game. He just ticks you off with his attitude and facial expressions, etc

Maybe so but Nick can play the game. He just ticks you off with his attitude and facial expressions, etc

 

When it is playoff time, he hits like he hit for the White Sox.

Yeah, the Sox should use history to show them that 23 year olds that put up a 96 suck. We had to put up with Maggs all those years when his first full season 94 should have clued the Sox in he was no good, and Ventura's 83 his first full season was obviously a sign of things to come.

 

 

I do sometimes have a hard time figuring out how some folks decide who is good and who is bad on this team. I think Mr Dick Allen has a better take on things for sure

Yeah, the Sox should use history to show them that 23 year olds that put up a 96 suck. We had to put up with Maggs all those years when his first full season 94 should have clued the Sox in he was no good, and Ventura's 83 his first full season was obviously a sign of things to come.

 

Explain Beckham's 23 OPS+ of 86.

Explain Beckham's 23 OPS+ of 86.

Never happened. He put up a 106 OPS+ in his first year as a 22 year old. Based on the standard applied here, what you do in your first stint defines your entire career. Beckham is a borderline all star.

I have been following closely and have literally never seen anything anywhere that said the Phillies would consider trading Dominic Brown for Alfonso Soriano.

here's the link to what I read.

 

http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/...-soriano-trade/

The Cubs were also going to pay almost all of Soriano's salary. That won't happen with the SOx.

The report had the Cubs paying $10 mill of his remaining $36 mill. I think Rios is owed 25 mill which would be similar and he's a better all around player than Soriano.

The report had the Cubs paying $10 mill of his remaining $36 mill. I think Rios is owed 25 mill which would be similar and he's a better all around player than Soriano.

Has Soriano ever had anything as bad as Rios's 2011?

Has Soriano ever had anything as bad as Rios's 2011?

 

And Rios has never put up anything close to Soriano's best years.

Has Soriano ever had anything as bad as Rios's 2011?

If you factor in trying to catch and throw a baseball, then yes.

Has Soriano ever had anything as bad as Rios's 2011?

Who do you think would be the odds-on favorite to perform best over the next several years, Soriano or Rios?

If you factor in trying to catch and throw a baseball, then yes.

Rios's worst year was -0.8 war, Soriano was 0.0.

Who do you think would be the odds-on favorite to perform best over the next several years, Soriano or Rios?

If the team had the DH spot available I might well take Soriano. Rios gets 2 more years with this hitting coach to probe my doubts wrong, because we all know he has all star talent.

If the team had the DH spot available I might well take Soriano. Rios gets 2 more years with this hitting coach to probe my doubts wrong, because we all know he has all star talent.

You don't see any value in the flexibility though?

You don't see any value in the flexibility though?

Yeah, but I'm trading that off against reliability. I'm that iffy on Rios. We all were last year, deservedly so. I'm gonna hope he finally has his head on straight and just keeps it rolling next year.

Yeah, but I'm trading that off against reliability. I'm that iffy on Rios. We all were last year, deservedly so. I'm gonna hope he finally has his head on straight and just keeps it rolling next year.

Fair enough.

Rios's worst year was -0.8 war, Soriano was 0.0.

so, at their worst, they are basically the same. I think that's what you asked.