The fact that he was resigned ought to tell you a lot about the quality of "prospects" that were being offered for him.

 

Well Kenny was supposedly asking "the moon"... If he had just lowered his standards a little maybe they'd have more to spend on a left handed hitter.

 

It's not like Danks missing the season really hurt the team last year.

Well Kenny was supposedly asking "the moon"... If he had just lowered his standards a little maybe they'd have more to spend on a left handed hitter.

 

It's not like Danks missing the season really hurt the team last year.

Danks was also paid diddly squat last year.

I still wish they'd have traded Danks instead of resigned him last offseason. They'd have a little more payroll flexibility now if he was traded for prospects...

 

With where pitching contracts when this off season, Danks might be one of the easiest players on our roster to get a big haul for if he comes back healthy.

Well Kenny was supposedly asking "the moon"... If he had just lowered his standards a little maybe they'd have more to spend on a left handed hitter.

 

It's not like Danks missing the season really hurt the team last year.

 

We have to assume, though, that they had no idea he needed shoulder surgery. When you compare the decision at the time, it wasn't really prospects or nothing, it was prospects or the ability to have Danks pitching next year.

While I don't agree with his contention it's easy to see why he would project regression, what with the players we lost. I just think the opportunity for improvement is just as strong, and I'm surprised he doesn't look at that too. Maybe it's easier to predict irrelevance. Honestly, I really don't care.

Same guy predicted a last place finish for the Sox last year.

 

However, he makes a few good points. The backloaded contract hell comment doesn't really make sense, though.

 

If Rios has a decent year, Dunn hits 40+ HRs again, and Konerko is better after the surgery, the Sox have a chance to compete within the division. The pitching looks pretty good right now, especially if Danks returns to form.

 

This. If the hitters play to their career norms (with the exception being the Flowers types who don't have a lot of time under their belt), and the pitching stays healthy, I think the Sox should be the favorites.

This. If the hitters play to their career norms (with the exception being the Flowers types who don't have a lot of time under their belt), and the pitching stays healthy, I think the Sox should be the favorites.

I don't see them being the "Favorites", because Detroit is legitimately a solid team on paper. If you just do things on paper with people doing kinda what they did last year, but getting Danks back...the Sox become an upper 80's win team and Detroit becomes a low-90's win team with what they're adding.

While I don't agree with his contention it's easy to see why he would project regression, what with the players we lost. I just think the opportunity for improvement is just as strong, and I'm surprised he doesn't look at that too. Maybe it's easier to predict irrelevance. Honestly, I really don't care.

Easier to predict irrelevance when the Sox made him look foolish last year. He'll just keep predicting Sox suck until he gets it right. f*** Passan. I hope he's wrong again.

I don't see them being the "Favorites", because Detroit is legitimately a solid team on paper. If you just do things on paper with people doing kinda what they did last year, but getting Danks back...the Sox become an upper 80's win team and Detroit becomes a low-90's win team with what they're adding.

 

I guess it's all a point of perspective.

Of course after he wrote that, the Sox acquired Lindstrom, so it goes up a few million. But that doesn't matter to what he wrote.

 

Oh, and a reliever who throws hard.

Other than that, the White Sox's offseason has been dandy, thanks very much.

That was a great article IMO. I don't see how anybody can argue with his assertion this is no playoff contender. I'm glad somebody finally wrote that officially Beckham is a bust.

That was a great article IMO. I don't see how anybody can argue with his assertion this is no playoff contender. I'm glad somebody finally wrote that officially Beckham is a bust.

Yeah its hard to argue with a guy who had the White Sox and A's losing 94 games each last year. Had the Orioles losing 98 and had the Giants not even .500. Listen to Passan. He nails it every year.

Yeah its hard to argue with a guy who had the White Sox and A's losing 94 games each last year. Had the Orioles losing 98 and had the Giants not even .500. Listen to Passan. He nails it every year.

 

I'm not saying Passan is great, but point me to the guy who had the Sox, A's and O's picked correctly last year. I think they all surprised just about everyone.

I'm not saying Passan is great, but point me to the guy who had the Sox, A's and O's picked correctly last year. I think they all surprised just about everyone.

His predictions suck. That's the point. If he says the Sox will suck, he might be right, but to think his opinion on 2013 is any more valid than anyone else just because he writes for yahoo is absurd. Look at all of his predictions from the past. He hasn't been very accurate.

Easier to predict irrelevance when the Sox made him look foolish last year. He'll just keep predicting Sox suck until he gets it right. f*** Passan. I hope he's wrong again.

I would point to an article (albeit slanted) on the white sox website where Kenny discusses our pitching staff. Like he says, you'll always have a chance with good pitching. Without it, no chance. We have a decent staff. Will the bats support them? That was always the question last year. Even with a league-leading average with RISP, they still struggled to score runs. Kind of baffling. And maybe Beckham's tired of reading he's a bust and finally decides to be a major league hitter.

KC ranked to finish ahead of the Sox in alot of predictions of the AL Central.

The Danks contract was structured as such as they imagine Peavy would be gone in 2013 and Danks would be basically collecting Peavy's salary more or less. There was probably a 20% chance that Peavy was going to rebound to his 2012 season in their eyes. Luckily Peavy liked Chicago and gave them a sweetheart deal by only taking 2 years at a reasonable salary and the Sox couldn't pass that up, especially with Danks shoulder issues. Danks will probably rebound but be overpaid through the duration of the deal I assume but still be a slightly above average starter.

KC ranked to finish ahead of the Sox in alot of predictions of the AL Central.

 

Still doesn't matter

With where pitching contracts when this off season, Danks might be one of the easiest players on our roster to get a big haul for if he comes back healthy.

 

Everyone wants to get your good players for nothing. Maybe hanging on to your own young players is reeally the best way to go?

Still doesn't matter

Does to me Sox could not beat KC last year before they improved there team this year, and cost Sox the AL Central in 2012.

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Does to me Sox could not beat KC last year before they improved there team this year, and cost Sox the AL Central in 2012.

 

Not beating a team head-to-head and finishing below a team are entirely different things. All 77 losses were equally responsible for us missing the playoffs.

Does to me Sox could not beat KC last year before they improved there team this year, and cost Sox the AL Central in 2012.

 

Because analysts are 100% spot-on when it comes to their predictions.

 

How many times do we have to go over this before people will start taking analysts' opinions for the grain of salt they're worth?

Because analysts are 100% spot-on when it comes to their predictions.

 

How many times do we have to go over this before people will start taking analysts' opinions for the grain of salt they're worth?

If they finish behind KC we will pick up this conversation up again!

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If they finish behind KC we will pick up this conversation up again!

 

No we won't. It's not a big deal either way. For all I know, they could finish behind Cleveland or Minnesota, or they could finish ahead of Detroit. Point being, paying any sort of attention to the prediction of analysts is like taking the advice of a psychic seriously. They may know some information about you and come to an informed prediction, but they can't predict the future. Kansas City should be better this year - it doesn't mean they'll be better than the White Sox.

 

The Royals still need a lot to go right and the White Sox a lot to go wrong before they flip in the division. It's just that, as opposed to prior years, the amounts are slightly lesser.

No we won't. It's not a big deal either way. For all I know, they could finish behind Cleveland or Minnesota, or they could finish ahead of Detroit. Point being, paying any sort of attention to the prediction of analysts is like taking the advice of a psychic seriously. They may know some information about you and come to an informed prediction, but they can't predict the future. Kansas City should be better this year - it doesn't mean they'll be better than the White Sox.

 

The Royals still need a lot to go right and the White Sox a lot to go wrong before they flip in the division. It's just that, as opposed to prior years, the amounts are slightly lesser.

That is my opinion on KC not about what some analysts writes.

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