July 31, 201312 yr Article on Bleacher Report grading all the deadline trades was just posted, and the final grades for the Peavy trade is in according to them.... Boston Red Sox: A Detroit Tigers: A+ Chicago White Sox: C
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 11:22 AM) Article on Bleacher Report grading all the deadline trades was just posted, and the final grades for the Peavy trade is in according to them.... Boston Red Sox: A Detroit Tigers: A+ Chicago White Sox: C I'll be laughing even harder when the tigers lose again in the world series, this time to the Dodgers.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:25 PM) They say Garcia profiles as a .280 20HR 80RBI Right fielder. Yep, if everything works out, that's about right.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:22 PM) Article on Bleacher Report grading all the deadline trades was just posted, and the final grades for the Peavy trade is in according to them.... Boston Red Sox: A Detroit Tigers: A+ Chicago White Sox: C I stopped reading at Bleacher Report
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 06:27 PM) I'll be laughing even harder when the tigers lose again in the world series, this time to the Dodgers. No they will lose first round to the Red Sox thanks to this trade.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:29 PM) No they will lose first round to the Red Sox thanks to this trade. Not if Peavy pitches twice.
July 31, 201312 yr I'm interested in what Hahn turned down from the Dbacks now that they got Kennedy traded.
July 31, 201312 yr From Keith Law.. "What you think of the White Sox' return for Peavy depends largely on what you think of Garcia. I've long held that he's an extra outfielder, or below-average regular, a player with some tools but very little baseball skill or instincts, especially at the plate where he appears to have no plan at all." Surprise suprise! He hates a player the White Sox love! In other news, the sun rose in the East this morning
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 12:00 PM) Wow! 250+ pages on this subject. "Other " sites don't even dent that. Good job Sox Talk! I've only got 52.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:46 PM) From Keith Law.. "What you think of the White Sox' return for Peavy depends largely on what you think of Garcia. I've long held that he's an extra outfielder, or below-average regular, a player with some tools but very little baseball skill or instincts, especially at the plate where he appears to have no plan at all." Surprise suprise! He hates a player the White Sox love! In other news, the sun rose in the East this morning How does he 'long hold' anything for a guy who just turned 22? That makes him sound like some finished product Edited July 31, 201312 yr by Jose Paniagua
July 31, 201312 yr Also, can someone with an account post what baseball prospectus wrote on the trade? I heard they view it positively for the (White) Sox
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:46 PM) From Keith Law.. "What you think of the White Sox' return for Peavy depends largely on what you think of Garcia. I've long held that he's an extra outfielder, or below-average regular, a player with some tools but very little baseball skill or instincts, especially at the plate where he appears to have no plan at all." Surprise suprise! He hates a player the White Sox love! In other news, the sun rose in the East this morning Kieth Law is a Dick Head!!! We could have gotten Mike Trout in a trade and he would find a negative spin on it. I try not to read anything he writes, or anything ESPN writes. Excited to see what Fox One brings to the table, hopefully more balanced sports news. Can't wait to see Urlacher as an analyst.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:48 PM) How does he 'long hold' anything for a guy who just turned 22? That makes him sound like some finished product He did go on to say... "In Garcia's defense, he's just 22 years old and did not belong in the big leagues this year, so he at least has the time to develop an approach at the plate. The White Sox likely view him as a potential middle-of-the-order bat, which would more than justify the trade for Peavy, although I'm less sanguine because of Garcia's lack of adjustments." I support this notion, why rush him to the majors this year when we have nothing to play for? He's got a lot to work on in Triple-A and he's still extremely young.
July 31, 201312 yr He did go on to say... "In Garcia's defense, he's just 22 years old and did not belong in the big leagues this year, so he at least has the time to develop an approach at the plate. The White Sox likely view him as a potential middle-of-the-order bat, which would more than justify the trade for Peavy, although I'm less sanguine because of Garcia's lack of adjustments." I support this notion, why rush him to the majors this year when we have nothing to play for? He's got a lot to work on in Triple-A and he's still extremely young. I agree with keeping him in AAA until September, especially since he's already had an option used on him this year.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:20 PM) Olt off to a horrible start for Iowa He's basically blind = bust
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 12:44 PM) Because that is the market value for a #2 pitcher for a year and a half of playing time. Peavy's contract is a value if anything. Peavy is NOT a #2 pitcher
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:22 PM) Article on Bleacher Report grading all the deadline trades was just posted, and the final grades for the Peavy trade is in according to them.... Boston Red Sox: A Detroit Tigers: A+ Chicago White Sox: C
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (La Marr Hoyt HOF @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 07:07 PM) Peavy is NOT a #2 pitcher True he was ace level last year. No reason he can't get there if he's healthy.
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:14 PM) if he's healthy 4+ ERA, ~2HR/9 not gonna cut it in Fenway
July 31, 201312 yr QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 09:44 AM) Because no one in their right mind considers Peavy's contract a bad one. And they took it on by giving up a guy with a career .622 OPS...in the minors and nothing else of value. Really great deal for them. It's going to very tough for someone to top what they did. If it was really as good as you hyberbolized more teams would have been willing to take it on and that was not the case. Everyone else wanted Sox to pay part of it. Lots of contenders this year not exactly with the highest payrolls and they valued that more than Peavy's salary and the prospects they would have to give up get him. Surprising number of teams willing to stand pat even valuing their prospects over winning now. So it seems when everyone was saying it's a sellers market and I was saying it's a buyers market, the buyers are winning atm. Edited July 31, 201312 yr by CaliSoxFanViaSWside
July 31, 201312 yr The truth is that Peavy would be making much more if he was a free agent right now
July 31, 201312 yr Mark Gonzales @MDGonzales 12m Garcia officially added to Charlotte roster but hasn't officially reported, three players acquired from Boston assigned to Kannapolis
July 31, 201312 yr Phil Rogers @ChiTribRogers 19m After Ian Kennedy and Justin Maxwell deals, about 50 players moved in July. Only 4 minor-lg run-producers (Garcia, Olt, Vasquez and Jacobs).
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