November 10, 201411 yr Ben Badler @BenBadler 21m21 minutes ago 1. Carlos Rodon 2. Tim Anderson 3. Spencer Adams Baseball America's White Sox Top Prospects: http://bit.ly/1srKnMF
November 10, 201411 yr Here is the list posted this morning on the web site. The story is pay. Here is a link. http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2015...p-10-prospects/ Not a vote of confidence in Hawkins. 1. Carlos Rodon, lhp 2. Tim Anderson, SS 3. Spencer Adams, rhp 4. Micah Johnson, 2B 5. Frank Montas, rhp 6. Micker Adolfo, OF 7. Tyler Danish, rhp 8. Trey Michalczewski, 3b 9. Courtney Hawkins, of 10. Rangel Ravelo 1b
November 10, 201411 yr Shocked to see Hawkins that low to be honest. Also, Davidson not in the top 10 is wrong imo. He still has potential.
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 08:48 AM) Here is the list posted this morning on the web site. The story is pay. Here is a link. http://www.baseballamerica.com/minors/2015...p-10-prospects/ Not a vote of confidence in Hawkins. 1. Carlos Rodon, lhp 2. Tim Anderson, SS 3. Spencer Adams, rhp 4. Micah Johnson, 2B 5. Frank Montas, rhp 6. Micker Adolfo, OF 7. Tyler Danish, rhp 8. Trey Michalczewski, 3b 9. Courtney Hawkins, of 10. Rangel Ravelo 1b Micker and Rangel getting far more love here than I would have expected.
November 10, 201411 yr hard to rank adolfo. He's a mystery man. vote of no confidence in Hawkins, Thompson. surprised Bassitt didn't make the list. That's a mistake, IMO.
November 10, 201411 yr Hawkins and Adolfo should definitely be switched. If Hawkins continues to improve like he did this past year he'll be a 21 year old in AA. Pretty impressive, especially when you factor in the tools he has already.
November 10, 201411 yr Random question: How is Ravelo's first name pronounced? Is it Rangel like Angel or Ranger? Or pronounced like "Ron-Hell"?
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Random question: How is Ravelo's first name pronounced? Is it Rangel like Angel or Ranger? Or pronounced like "Ron-Hell"? Ron-Hell And Micker is Mike-er.
November 10, 201411 yr Shockingly aggressive on Micker. Sometimes I think BA really blows certain guys up just because they want to be seen as the first to jump on the bandwagon. Hard to argue that Viva Zapata should show up here quite yet, let alone ahead of guys like Danish.
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:09 AM) Shockingly aggressive on Micker. Sometimes I think BA really blows certain guys up just because they want to be seen as the first to jump on the bandwagon. Hard to argue that Viva Zapata should show up here quite yet, let alone ahead of guys like Danish. I completely agree, and it's one of the reasons I think Top 10 prospect lists are kinda dumb. We know who is drafted high, paid a lot, and performing well (or not well). That's good enough for me.
November 10, 201411 yr It is nice to see Ravelo recognized. He did not make the top 20 in the Southern League, likely because he doesn't have what BA considers "tools." They always lean toward the guys who might have plus speed or power or defense. As we know, the tools guys often bust. Dude can hit, though. But why no Bassitt? I don't get that.
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) Has Bassitt "graduated" from prospect status yet? If so, that's why. He should still qualify based on this link: no more than 130 at-bats, 50 innings or 30 relief appearances in the major leagues, without regard to service time He missed a lot of time last year, wasn't that highly thought of in the first place, so I can kinda get why they wouldn't have him ranked highly.
November 10, 201411 yr I'd be surprised if he graduated. He only pitched in 5 big league games and didn't make it past AA ball. BA leans heavily on how high guys were drafted and what kind of bonus they were paid. Bassitt does not check those boxes.
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 11:31 AM) What about Carlos Sanchez? He only had 104 big league plate appearances. I don't think a publication like BA would rank him very highly for reasons stated above.
November 10, 201411 yr The fact that we have guys like Bassitt and Sanchez not making this list is a good thing
November 10, 201411 yr Adolfo way too high for my liking. Hawkins a little low. Otherwise looks like a good list to me. I might maybe flip Montas and Adams, but I can see the argument either way.
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (flavum @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:11 AM) I completely agree, and it's one of the reasons I think Top 10 prospect lists are kinda dumb. We know who is drafted high, paid a lot, and performing well (or not well). That's good enough for me. They're nice for making frames of reference, but it's why I always make it a point that the only thing that ultimately matters is what happens with the Chicago White Sox major league team. Yes, you want a good minor league system. Yes, you want it to be ranked high. But people would have assumed the White Sox were going to own the 2000s based on that 2000 team and the best minor league system in the game. The best player from that minor league system was an 88 MPH lefty who has thrown 200 innings in every season for the past 48 years.
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:58 AM) They're nice for making frames of reference, but it's why I always make it a point that the only thing that ultimately matters is what happens with the Chicago White Sox major league team. Yes, you want a good minor league system. Yes, you want it to be ranked high. But people would have assumed the White Sox were going to own the 2000s based on that 2000 team and the best minor league system in the game. The best player from that minor league system was an 88 MPH lefty who has thrown 200 innings in every season for the past 48 years. Funny that I say this...from the Sunday Notes Article posted yesterday at FanGraphs (last paragraph): In 2005, the Red Sox minor league system was ranked 21st among the 30 teams. Their top six prospects that year were: 1. Hanley Ramirez, 2. Brandon Moss, 3. Jonathan Papelbon, 4. Jon Lester, 5. Anibal Sanchez, 6. Dustin Pedroia. They’ve since gone on to accumulate 164.4 WAR. The Chicago Cubs were ranked 11 spots ahead of the Red Sox, at No. 10. Their top prospects were; 1. Brian Dopirak, 2. Felix Pie, 3. Ryan Harvey, 4. Angel Guzman, 5. Billy Petrick, 6. Renyel Pinto. They ended up being worth minus 1.1 WAR. http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/sunday-note...-astros-dbacks/
November 10, 201411 yr Author QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 11:36 AM) Funny that I say this...from the Sunday Notes Article posted yesterday at FanGraphs (last paragraph): http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/sunday-note...-astros-dbacks/ That was worth a click for no other reason than a Reid Nichols sighting #obscure80splayers
November 10, 201411 yr I like to think of the last few Ron Zook recruiting classes. They had relatively high rankings, but most of the top rated guys never even got on the field. Even at certain ranking levels, there are different classes of guys - the guys who are an absolute longshot but with a lot of payoff predicated on a ton of improvement or the guys who are a sure thing that is one small improvement from being great
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 10:06 AM) Random question: How is Ravelo's first name pronounced? Is it Rangel like Angel or Ranger? Or pronounced like "Ron-Hell"? Dude I'm just gonna wait for whatever Bill Melton says
November 10, 201411 yr QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Nov 10, 2014 -> 01:11 PM) Dude I'm just gonna wait for whatever Bill Melton says Wrango Navel.
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