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Max Scherzer

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Surprised there isn't a thread about him yet. Surprisingly, the Sox have been linked to Scherzer by Hayes and Heyman so far as a dark horse to sign him.

 

The money and years he is going to command is definitely scary, and I really hope the Sox don't sign him to a long lucrative contract.

 

What are your guys thoughts on Scherzer?

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QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:17 PM)
Surprised there isn't a thread about him yet. Surprisingly, the Sox have been linked to Scherzer by Hayes and Heyman so far as a dark horse to sign him.

 

The money and years he is going to command is definitely scary, and I really hope the Sox don't sign him to a long lucrative contract.

 

What are your guys thoughts on Scherzer?

 

it would be a great investment. will make the sox a force to

be reckon with for yrs. esp when Jose, Sale, Q, are in there

prime yrs.

 

now on the other side of the coin, can the sox get that results

from a pitcher like Lester?

The White Sox are not going after Max Scherzer. The last thing they will do is spend the vast majority of their off season money on one guy.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 09:17 AM)
Surprised there isn't a thread about him yet. Surprisingly, the Sox have been linked to Scherzer by Hayes and Heyman so far as a dark horse to sign him.

 

The money and years he is going to command is definitely scary, and I really hope the Sox don't sign him to a long lucrative contract.

 

What are your guys thoughts on Scherzer?

On the one hand, Scherzer is an undeniably good pitcher.

On the other hand, a guy with his batted ball profile doesn't fit well at the Cell; bottom 10 of qualified pitchers in GB/FB last year.

On the third hand, a strikeout guy fits well with the Sox defense.

On the final hand, signing the most expensive pitcher in a given offseason is a bad idea and you should never ever do it.

Adding a Scherzer or Shark to this rotation would be great, however, the cost, years, and tail risk is tough to swallow for a team with a payroll that won't exceed $100M. That said, the Sox are in a position, with other cost controlled arms, to technically be able to sign one picture to a big money deal. Potential for a front 4 long-term of Sale / Q / R / Scherzer (or Shark) is very nice. However, if you are talking Scherzer, you then are talking 2 guys with what would be deemed more high risk mechanics in your rotation (Sale being the other). Again, hard to predict cause you never know what will happen.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 03:41 PM)
On the one hand, Scherzer is an undeniably good pitcher.

On the other hand, a guy with his batted ball profile doesn't fit well at the Cell; bottom 10 of qualified pitchers in GB/FB last year.

On the third hand, a strikeout guy fits well with the Sox defense.

On the final hand, signing the most expensive pitcher in a given offseason is a bad idea and you should never ever do it.

 

niccceeeeee i like the breakdown.

I'd be all for going after Scherzer. Not only do you take a big piece away from a division rival, but you build a filthy rotation for the next 5 years atleast. I know the money and years arent popular, but I honestly think he is one of the safer picks in this years free agent class. If they dont sign him, I would really like them to spend that money of a LF and bullpen.

Is it possible this is the one time where the hype over how much a star player will get will not at all match-up to what people pay him?

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 11:10 AM)
Is it possible this is the one time where the hype over how much a star player will get will not at all match-up to what people pay him?

I can't remember a time when the contract for a front line starting pitcher didn't live up to the hype.

Then I don't buy it. It is 1-2 years too early for this move.

if in a long shot the sox sign Scherzer, who will be the #1 sp?

 

how will the left right left rotation is going to look like

QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:14 PM)
Then I don't buy it. It is 1-2 years too early for this move.

 

i don't agree in a way. the prime yrs of the main nucleus is now.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:13 AM)
I can't remember a time when the contract for a front line starting pitcher didn't live up to the hype.

 

Yeah, I can't remember a time where the top pitcher on the market didn't get a contract that made people think "WTF are they thinking?!?!??!"

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:17 PM)
Yeah, I can't remember a time where the top pitcher on the market didn't get a contract that made people think "WTF are they thinking?!?!??!"

 

but a contract to a major sp like this is saying, "look out here

we come"

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:20 AM)
but a contract to a major sp like this is saying, "look out here

we come"

 

What good does it to to spend that much money and not have enough to fill the other holes?

I'd have zero problem with this, esp. if Danks is traded. Either way I'd have no issue with it.

 

I firmly believe that within a couple years the salary will be back up around 120M so I'm fine with making this move that would put it up around 75 before anything else.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Scherzer should have taken that contract extension from Detroit. I don't think he will get anything close to it. Reminds me of Juan Gonzalez

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:29 AM)
Scherzer should have taken that contract extension from Detroit. I don't think he will get anything close to it. Reminds me of Juan Gonzalez

 

I don't believe this for a second.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:29 PM)
I'd have zero problem with this, esp. if Danks is traded. Either way I'd have no issue with it.

 

I firmly believe that within a couple years the salary will be back up around 120M so I'm fine with making this move that would put it up around 75 before anything else.

 

it may even be next yr. with a trip to the playoff to boot.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:30 AM)
I don't believe this for a second.

 

It won't be as extreme as Gonzalez but I still don't think it'll be 6/144 which is what he was offered.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:37 PM)
It won't be as extreme as Gonzalez but I still don't think it'll be 6/144 which is what he was offered.

 

only time will tell.

QUOTE (LDF @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:39 AM)
only time will tell.

 

Without the Yanks and Dodgers being on it (Dodgers not looking to give out any big contracts right now) I just can't see anyone driving up the price

I think in the free agent prediction contest I had him going to the Angels

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 10:37 AM)
It won't be as extreme as Gonzalez but I still don't think it'll be 6/144 which is what he was offered.

 

I'd put my money on somewhere between 7/175 and 8/200, without thinking twice about it.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 11, 2014 -> 04:40 PM)
Without the Yanks and Dodgers being on it (Dodgers not looking to give out any big contracts right now) I just can't see anyone driving up the price

 

good for us, who is his agent again???

 

 

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