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QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 08:27 AM)
I f***ing despise Breitbart and anyone associated with it. Just reading the headlines is enough. Reading the comments makes me want to fight people, literally.

 

It's crazy when the new breitbart makes the old breitbart look like it's nicer cousin, when the old breitbart ruined some great Americans careers for no reason other than sport.

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QUOTE (bmags @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 10:39 AM)
It's crazy when the new breitbart makes the old breitbart look like it's nicer cousin, when the old breitbart ruined some great Americans careers for no reason other than sport.

I didn't actually think Breitbart had a lower place to sink to, then he died, and... well, here we are, it's a white supremacist site, basically.

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QUOTE (Ezio Auditore @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 12:06 PM)
I didn't actually think Breitbart had a lower place to sink to, then he died, and... well, here we are, it's a white supremacist site, basically.

"I didn't think Breitbart had a lower place to sink to, then he died, and well here we are...they're in an even lower place, Trump's White House".

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Nuclear security expert keeps getting asked for the last few weeks if there are any checks to prevent the US President from starting a nuclear war, describes in detail how the entire system is set up in the opposite way, such that no one ever questions a President's decision to launch a nuclear war under any circumstances until it is over.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 18, 2016 -> 09:35 AM)
If they actually put forwards a plan to require muslims to register or require people to present their papers to verify they're legally here, will you stand against it?

 

I have always been against all of that. Unlike some, I can criticize anyone, and not just the other party.

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The celebrations have ended and we’ve all come to absorb the fact that Donald Trump is our next President, an outcome that many of us have aggressively worked for in the past several months. Now that we’ve gotten what we wanted, it’s time to describe exactly how a Trump presidency will improve our standing.

 

If the President can say it then you can say it

 

The biggest effect we’ll see is the death of political correctness. We now have a s***lord for President who has insulted ugly women as “fat pigs,” and whose private macho talk, which all masculine men have done, was relentlessly attacked by the press but not punished in the voter booth. This means that when you talk like Trump, the first thought your listener will have is, “He sounds like the President of the United States.”

 

What excuse will they now have for limiting your speech if one man was able to gain the highest office in the land because of it? Either Trump was elected because voters liked a person who makes those kinds of statements or they didn’t care enough that he made them. Whichever explanation you accept means that the will of the American people has stated that you can exercise your free speech, your opinions, and your desire to flirt with attractive women without having to obey a speech police force that evaluates everything you do based on how offensive it is to a kaleidoscope of races and loony identities. You can begin removing your politically correct filter.

 

I’m in a state of exuberance that we now have a President who rates women on a 1-10 scale in the same way that we do and evaluates women by their appearance and feminine attitude. We may have to institute a new feature called “Would Trump bang?” to signify the importance of feminine beauty ideals that cultivate effort and class above sloth and vulgarity. Simply look at his wife and the beautiful women he has surrounded himself with to remind yourself of what men everywhere prefer, and not the “beauty at every size” sewage that has been pushed down our throats by gender studies professors and corporations trying to market their product to feminist fatsoes. The President of the United States does not see the value in fat women who don’t take care of themselves, and neither should you.

 

Liberals will be forced to tolerate us in a way they didn’t have to before

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There are so many of us that we can ease out of the closet and not be afraid of persecution like before. What are they going to do, fire everyone who supports Trump? Accuse every man who voted for him of rape? The way the establishment has been able to marginalize us is to corner men individually and apply intense pressure, but now we have natural allies in all men who back Trump, even if they don’t subscribe to our particular interpretation of masculinity.

 

Liberals will not be able to point and shriek to get you to withdraw like before. They will not have easy victories by using labels like “racist” or “sexist.” They will have to endure us in their midst and bite their lip when we offend their degenerate ideals, knowing that the price of attacking us is becoming too costly. It may be as simple as whipping out your MAGA hat, as if it’s a bat signal, and having fellow Trump supporters come to your aid. I know that if I see a Trump supporter in trouble, I will help him, regardless of his race or station. Liberals will be forced to share space with those whom they hate, instead of trying to exile them like in the past.

 

It will be easier to find a fellow traveler

stonecutters

 

Men who hold our beliefs have long ago learned that we can’t go around sharing them in public to those who are not vetted. If you’re like me, you first “test” a new man you meet with a masculine comment to see how he responds, such as remarking on the attractiveness of a woman or how you’ve heard of a community online that trolls liberals without mercy. We’ve even had to devise a special “pet shop” code to know if a man is aware of the teachings that are found on ROK or the forum. We now have a easier shortcut in Trump.

 

If a man tells you that he voted for Trump, it’s safe to say that he is favorable to strong borders, nationalism, masculinity, and beautiful women. On a basic level, you will be able to get along with this man and build a bond. It also works the other way around where you bring up Trump to screen out those who are offended by him. It’s fine if someone is politically indifferent, but if a man opposes Trump then I have to anticipate him attacking or sabotaging me in the future. I will distance myself from him for my own well-being.

 

The cultural decline will halt

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We now have a President who will not encourage anti-male propaganda, rape culture, and female victimhood. While I do have minor concerns on the influence of his feminist-minded daughter, Ivanka, Trump will not continue the attack on men that has been institutionalized since the sexual revolution and accelerated during the eight years of Obama. Because our current cultural dystopia is the result of intense long-term manipulation, it is more than enough for Trump to simply not touch the gender issue to allow the culture to return to a more patriarchal order. Stop feeding the rot and it will die off, allowing biology to naturally reassert itself.

 

We’ve experienced so many changes in the past decade that we haven’t had a chance to understand what’s going on and adapt. Instead, we’ve been reacting from one blow to the next, whether it’s the loss of our jobs through witch hunts or the rape culture horror that has turned a banal consensual hookup into possible incarceration. Trump’s victory gives us room to begin pushing back against the fictions that have put men in harm’s way.

 

Conclusion

Paradoxically, the benefits of a Trump presidency will not involve specific actions from Trump. His presence automatically legitimizes masculine behaviors that were previously labeled sexist and misogynist. While we may still get heat for them, it will be less severe and we’ll be less likely to sustain serious damage. Liberals will have no choice but to silently stew on our words and we can more effortlessly connect with men not only for male bonding but also to push back against a demoralized and fractured left. Victories will be far easier to achieve under Trump than Obama.

 

This is our moment. The door is opening for a renaissance of masculinity where men can take pride in being men, and the best part of it is that we don’t need to wait for Trump to do anything. His victory is more than enough for us to apply our own individual strength in seizing the bull’s horns where we can come out of the politically incorrect closet and assert our beliefs and behaviors. It would be icing on the cake if Trump rolled back anti-masculine laws and policies, but it’s not required, because the power to change ourselves and our country is within our hands. Return Of Kings opened in 2012, and the only surprise for me is how quickly the name is being fulfilled.

Men's rights activist celebrating.
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Please tell me again how this is about economic anxiety.

To celebrate Donald Trump’s presidential victory, dozens of white nationalists descended on the Ronald Reagan Building in downtown Washington, D.C. on Saturday to share glasses of wine and make Nazi salutes for the cameras.

 

The event, organized by the white nationalist National Policy Institute, was part of the movement’s ongoing effort to normalize their brand of “pro-white,” anti-Semitic, anti-immigrant nationalism. Yet there were deep cracks in the facade.

 

The New York Times reported that by the eleventh hour of speeches and panel discussions cheering Trump’s win and decrying the marginalization of white Americans in coded language, the rhetoric took a blatantly anti-Semitic turn.

 

In his closing speech, Richard Spencer, NPI president and figurehead of the so-called “alt-right” movement, said that white people, whom he called the “children of the sun,” were “awakening to their own identity” in the Trump era.

 

Spencer ranted about the mainstream media and asked the audience if they should be referred to “in the original German,” according to the Times. The audience screamed back, “Lügenpresse,” a Nazi-era word that means “lying press” and appeared on signs at several Trump rallies during his campaign.

 

Spencer also reportedly suggested that the media criticized Trump during the 2016 race to protect Jewish interests.

 

By the end of his speech, a number of audience members had their arms stretched out in Nazi salutes and cheers of “Heil the people! Heil victory” broke out, according to the report.

 

Former reality TV star Tila Tequila was part of the crowd, and posted a photo on Twitter of her and several other attendees making Nazi salutes.

 

Seig heil! pic.twitter.com/FhuFuZq6Sc

 

— Tila Tequila (@AngelTilaLove) November 19, 2016

 

The speakers heaped praise on the work of Trump’s chief strategist, Breitbart News chairman Steve Bannon, and on his other appointees to senior roles in the administration.

 

Asked about Trump picking Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) as his attorney general, Spencer glowed.

 

"The fact that he is going to be at such a high level is a wonderful thing. What Jeff Sessions is not going to do, in terms of not prosecuting federal diversity and fair housing, I think is just as powerful as what he might do," he told NPR.

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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 21, 2016 -> 10:15 AM)
What's with the sanitized "alt-right" label? Why don't we just call them what they are, neo-nazis?

 

Because if you do that, you are insulting them. Jeez, you're a liberal, you should be PC!

 

/green

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 21, 2016 -> 12:43 PM)
It is the overusage of these types of labels that normalized them to the point where nothing that Trump was called had any effect on people It the party that cried wolf. The term "racist" today doesn't carry the weight that it used to.

Sieg Heil.

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Oh, and only because one poster has used Hillary being told that a debate in Flint, MI would feature questions about Flint, MI as a major example of corruption, here's another one that no one will care about.

Responding to Howard Kurtz' questions about her new book, Megyn Kelly said that TV hosts who supported Trump would collude with Donald beforehand to help give themselves credibility by making believe they were tough on him and called it "play acting."

 

On Fox News' Media Buzz, Kurtz asked, "Certain TV hosts were in the tank for Donald Trump, you say, to the point where 'they would arrange with Trump in advance to ask him certain critical questions or do certain hits on him so they would appear to have some credibility."

 

Kelly: "Yeah."

 

Kurtz: "Are you suggesting they were play acting?

 

Kelly: "Yes. It was acting."

 

Kurtz: "It was in more than one network, but you can't tell us who?".

 

Kelly: "No, because these were off the record conversations that I was privy to that I'm not at liberty to reveal. I'm not allowed to name the names, but trust me. This did happen and its been confirmed to me by more than one television executive."

 

I seem to remember that conservatives were outraged when they read unconfirmed leaked documents that alleged a Democratic operative gave a debate question to Hillary.

 

Kelly is verifying that staged interviews were given to Trump by TV anchors.

 

What does that remind you of?

 

Not to be forgotten from this interview is that somebody tipped off Trump about Megyn's first question during the debate she was moderating.

 

Too bad there were no leaked documents about the Trump campaign. I'm sure it's an oversight by Wikileaks. I wonder what we would have found?

 

Kelly said, "What I write is the day before the debate, he [Trump] had called one of our Fox News executives and said he had heard my first question for him was going to be a very pointed question."

 

The NY Times today added Scarborough from MSNBC as another person who has been "Advising" dear leader for several months also. These were the people outraged about Donna Brazille on air.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 21, 2016 -> 03:45 PM)
I agree. We should respect the important contributions of racism to the fabric of our society.

 

And this is exactly the attitude that has relegated the Democratic party to a secondary role in this country as they have lost the federal stage, and the vast majority of the states as well.

 

This holier than thou, anyone who isn't with us is a racist attitude just isn't effective as a political platform. All you have to do is look at the results of where the party is right now to know that.

 

Eventually one of these two parties will become disaffected enough with lowest common denominator politics to realize that in order to be truly effective it is the high hanging fruit that will be the most productive. But if you want to keep engaging in the Trump style of politics, then you will continue to get these results. The party that campaigned against the politics of fear and hate for so long has fallen into that trap, and has this Presidential election to show for it.

 

Again, congratulations for electing our worst nightmare as President.

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