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2016-2017 NCAA football thread

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Lane Kiffin's play calling has been laughably bad in this game. Feed Scarborough dumbass. Reminds me of the game against OSU two years ago where he cost Bama the game by not giving it to Henry enough with the difference being that OSU team was way better offensively than this Washington team.

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Ohio St kicker not so good so far

Welp. Didn't even show up.

Clemson just much better.

 

After seeing FSU statistically dominate Michigan, not shocking that Clemson is doing the same to Ohio St.

Lesson of the day: You can never have enough bad ass defensive linemen.

 

Bummer these games are so uneventful, I was looking forward to them.

Grown men vs boys. Weak sauce.

Alabama will beat Clemson by 20 again.

Kiffin loses his job in between the semifinal and final, yet it's only like the 3rd craziest story of his career.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 04:21 PM)
Trashy Rose Bowl to start

 

It improved.

QUOTE (Heads22 @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 07:32 PM)
It improved.

 

The trashy Rose Bowl is now high on meth. Overtime is a lock, right?

We were robbed of Penn State in the playoff.

 

edit- we were really robbed of both these teams, but at least Washington had a better resume than USC.

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QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 08:12 PM)
We were robbed of Penn State in the playoff.

 

edit- we were really robbed of both these teams, but at least Washington had a better resume than USC.

 

We were robbed of USC in the playoff because Sam Darnold didn't start from day one. They still would have lost to Alabama in September but probably would have ran the table after that.

 

Once he got in the lineup they were definitely a top 4 team, they dominated Washington in Seattle, but you can't ignore the 3 losses.

Darnold being just a frosh is scary.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 2, 2017 -> 08:12 PM)
We were robbed of Penn State in the playoff.

 

edit- we were really robbed of both these teams, but at least Washington had a better resume than USC.

Washington got in instead of PSU since OSUs resume was better than both.

 

But seriously hot take from watching them lose the the ninth ranked team. That amazing PSU offense couldn't even generate 250 yards against the buckeyes. Maybe watch a game next year.

Washington got in instead of PSU since OSUs resume was better than both.

 

But seriously hot take from watching them lose the the ninth ranked team. That amazing PSU offense couldn't even generate 250 yards against the buckeyes. Maybe watch a game next year.

USC is better than their ranking, hell USC is better than Washington. But as already mentioned the three losses were too much to overcome, even if one of those losses was to Alabama. Penn State didn't lose to a turkey.

 

If the roles were reversed and PSU went 11-1 with the loss being against OSU which meant a 10-2 OSU team won the B1G there wouldn't even be a debate. OSU would be in the playoff and nobody would really be whining about OSU's hypothetical early season loss to Pitt (just like nobody whined about OSU's early season loss to VA Tech).

 

In any case I'm fairly confident PSU would've been more than just a speed bump for Clemson.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 08:41 AM)
Washington got in instead of PSU since OSUs resume was better than both.

 

But seriously hot take from watching them lose the the ninth ranked team. That amazing PSU offense couldn't even generate 250 yards against the buckeyes. Maybe watch a game next year.

 

After watching OSU get slapped around like a red-headed step child, it is hard to picture PSU doing worse.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 10:34 AM)
USC is better than their ranking, hell USC is better than Washington. But as already mentioned the three losses were too much to overcome, even if one of those losses was to Alabama. Penn State didn't lose to a turkey.

 

If the roles were reversed and PSU went 11-1 with the loss being against OSU which meant a 10-2 OSU team won the B1G there wouldn't even be a debate. OSU would be in the playoff and nobody would really be whining about OSU's hypothetical early season loss to Pitt (just like nobody whined about OSU's early season loss to VA Tech).

 

In any case I'm fairly confident PSU would've been more than just a speed bump for Clemson.

Nope. The better resume would make the playoff every time as the number 3 seed and maybe the debate of Washington vs PSU should have had more legs. Either way a two loss team isnt making the playoff unless they have a ridiculous resume. And FYI: everyone b****ed about the loss to VT. Some still do. Not sure what planet you were on while that went down.

 

Your confidence doesn't mean much. Teams play bad games sometimes and sometimes teams win miracle upsets and people hold onto that as proof they are a better team. Psu couldn't manage 250 yards vs OSU and needed to return a fg for a TD and an 8-1 penalty margin to win but somehow they'd be more competitive against the second ranked team in the country? Uh huh.

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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 10:48 AM)
After watching OSU get slapped around like a red-headed step child, it is hard to picture PSU doing worse.

Yeah they played a s*** game where everything went wrong. They play again and they probably don't do worse. Not sure what that proves though other than teams sometimes don't show up.

 

 

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:08 AM)
Yeah they played a s*** game where everything went wrong. They play again and they probably don't do worse. Not sure what that proves though other than teams sometimes don't show up.

 

Not showing up for the college playoff is kind of a big deal.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:15 AM)
Not showing up for the college playoff is kind of a big deal.

Not showing up for any important game is a big deal. The gameplan was s*** and its already cost one coach his job with another to follow. Same coaches had a brain fart that kept OSU out of the playoff last year when they were probably a team that could have done well.

 

Still says nothing about them belonging as their resume already proved they did.

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Nope. The better resume would make the playoff every time as the number 3 seed and maybe the debate of Washington vs PSU should have had more legs. Either way a two loss team isnt making the playoff unless they have a ridiculous resume. And FYI: everyone b****ed about the loss to VT. Some still do. Not sure what planet you were on while that went down.

 

Your confidence doesn't mean much. Teams play bad games sometimes and sometimes teams win miracle upsets and people hold onto that as proof they are a better team. Psu couldn't manage 250 yards vs OSU and needed to return a fg for a TD and an 8-1 penalty margin to win but somehow they'd be more competitive against the second ranked team in the country? Uh huh.

Nothing here really refutes the point that if OSU were in PSU position they would've gotten in. All the excuse making in the world doesn't overcome the H2H loss. OSU fans will talk your ear off about how PSU won that game on a fluke, but I've yet to hear a convincing big picture argument that H2H is pointless. Or that conference championships are pointless. Or at least that a H2H victory and conference championship can be cancelled out by a stupid loss three months prior.

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QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:27 AM)
Not showing up for any important game is a big deal. The gameplan was s*** and its already cost one coach his job with another to follow. Same coaches had a brain fart that kept OSU out of the playoff last year when they were probably a team that could have done well.

 

Still says nothing about them belonging as their resume already proved they did.

 

So all of that is true, but Penn State couldn't have done better? That doesn't really make sense.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 3, 2017 -> 11:31 AM)
So all of that is true, but Penn State couldn't have done better? That doesn't really make sense.

Probably any team could have done better that night based on how they played. But no team was more deserving of that spot.

Probably any team could have done better that night based on how they played. But no team was more deserving of that spot.

Except for the team Ohio State finished behind in the conference standings and lost to H2H.

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