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6/18 -- White Sox at Indians

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QUOTE (TitoMB @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 05:49 PM)
my statement is 100% serious. He should just retire. it's embarrassing for him. he's a shell of his former self.

 

I think it's purely a mental problem though. As I stated earlier, get him a couple of sessions with a hypnotist and he could still be a great middle of the rotation guy.

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QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 04:51 PM)
Just to add to the list of complaints, Dioner Navarro has been a disaster. He absolutely can't receive.

I didn't think it'd get worse than Flowers and it seems like it although I haven't seen his number for ATL this season.

Somehow I have a feeling the return for Todd Frazier (back to the NL) is going to be a lot less than Thompson, Montas and Micah Johnson.

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Ranaudo should start next time with Shields DLd to work on whatever- being a junk baller.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 04:53 PM)
I didn't think it'd get worse than Flowers and it seems like it although I haven't seen his number for ATL this season.

 

 

Flowers has actually been doing fairly well this season...

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 04:53 PM)
Somehow I have a feeling the return for Todd Frazier (back to the NL) is going to be a lot less than Thompson, Montas and Micah Johnson.

 

We'll see. If they can get a good return I'd absolutely do it. Now I'm starting to really wonder if I trust anything this front office does. Hahns moves suck.

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We seriously have two more years of James Shields? The Sox released Danks only to trade for his right handed counterpart.

 

Hahn traded for this clown and traded away Trayce Thompson. Dude is totally in over his head as a gm.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 04:53 PM)
Flowers has actually been doing fairly well this season...

Of course he is because he left Chicago. This is where players come to die.

Talk about defense though.

 

Timmy had the ball pop out of his glove on a spectacular dive attempt

 

Lawrie tried to make the throw from his knees after a dive attempt and threw a little wide

 

Melky missed on a dive attempt

 

Frazier has a ball bounce off his glove just out of reach.

 

I'm not saying these are play that should have been made but the sox could still be in this game if they are made.

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Forgot about Ranaudo, who will probably go on a tear and make Hahn look even more like an idiot for trading for Shields.

 

The White Sox love their history.

 

Dunn in 2011. Q's no decision/lack of support and then the bizarre demise of James Shields. The NY Times article has to be coming soon. When you start 23-10 and then subsequently go 10-25, that's too inviting of a story to pass up.

Don Cooper has gotten more mileage out of fixing Matt Thornton than any coach in major league history has out of fixing one player.

If Robin is just going to hang Shields out to dry, at least make him our #2 starter. Let him get the 1 run per game support and give Q a chance to collect some wins at the back of the rotation.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 04:55 PM)
Talk about defense though.

 

Timmy had the ball pop out of his glove on a spectacular dive attempt

 

Lawrie tried to make the throw from his knees after a dive attempt and threw a little wide

 

Melky missed on a dive attempt

 

Frazier has a ball bounce off his glove just out of reach.

 

I'm not saying these are play that should have been made but the sox could still be in this game if they are made.

When you're 23-10 you make those. When you're 10-24 after that start, then those miss.

Purke is not even close. Not one pitch has even remotely come close to the strike zone.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 11:57 PM)
Don Cooper has gotten more mileage out of fixing Matt Thornton than any coach in major league history has out of fixing one player.

 

Yes he has

Woowwwww

Bwahaha. This team is great.

Shields at Fenway in next start. Take the over

How the hell do any of these clowns have jobs? This is completely pathetic. This team and FO is hot garbage.

What a circus

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 04:57 PM)
Don Cooper has gotten more mileage out of fixing Matt Thornton than any coach in major league history has out of fixing one player.

 

 

You can't realistically blame Don Cooper for this mess after the way Shields pitched for SD against the Mariners and the fact everyone in baseball could look at his peripherals and declining velocity and increased homers and see red flag signs flashing a mile away.

QUOTE (soxfan85 @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 11:00 PM)
How the hell do any of these clowns have jobs? This is completely pathetic. This team and FO is hot garbage.

 

This seems like the end.

Wow. This James Shields trade sure is blowing up in the face of Hahn. Latos and Johnson perhaps even Danks look better than this guy. This ship sank a long time ago. #FireEveryone #ZeroConsequences #Corpseball

8 straight balls for purke, make that 9 and an error by navarro

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 18, 2016 -> 05:57 PM)
Don Cooper has gotten more mileage out of fixing Matt Thornton than any coach in major league history has out of fixing one player.

 

 

Yep, it is definitely time for him to go that is for sure.

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