Y2HH Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) True I'm sure there is some racism in any bias however over there its not just a group, its anyone who isn't German. Didn't matter the color of the German's skin, it was the fact that another national was taking their opportunities. It just had a very different feel from the racism here which is directed as much inward as it is outward. Do you consider the hate against Muslims racism? Since that's a religion and not a race, anyone that thinks it's racism is a f***ing idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2HH Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 03:51 PM) That sounds nearly identical to anti-Mexican feelings in this country, which definitely carry a racial component. Anti illegals yes, anti Mexicans no. Stop repeating this lie. The masses you speak of in such a generalized way are not anti Mexican whatsoever. Though I'm sure it makes your white guilt feel better...it would be nice if you finally recognized that just because you're white and not a liberal snot, it doesn't mean you're a racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 04:13 PM) Topical, from yesterday: http://www.forbes.com/sites/kateashford/20...s/#2866f6702dbe Support Obamacare they said, things would be better they said. College/university tuition and the costs of new homes rose at even higher rates (than quoted about medical/health care costs) in the 90's and 2000's. Anticipation of Obamacare was responsible for those increases as well? What about profit margins for health insurance companies? They've fallen at a precipitous rate, and most are in danger of going out of business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 07:37 PM) Since that's a religion and not a race, anyone that thinks it's racism is a f***ing idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 05:51 PM) True I'm sure there is some racism in any bias however over there its not just a group, its anyone who isn't German. Didn't matter the color of the German's skin, it was the fact that another national was taking their opportunities. It just had a very different feel from the racism here which is directed as much inward as it is outward. Do you consider the hate against Muslims racism? Fair enough. For the second question, it'd be bigotry or prejudice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 10:51 PM) Do you consider the hate against Muslims racism? If it's the type of hate that views all Muslims/Arabs/Middle-Eastern brown people as basically the same (bad) group, yeah. Racists don't tend to be the most knowledgeable people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 29, 2016 -> 12:52 PM) Having spent a fair amount of time at athletic events in europe, I think much of it is based on nationality not race. Many of them think it's just "other" people taking jobs and being a drain financially on the country especially one with the NHS. I found this interesting about athletic events. There have been countless incidents at soccer games in Europe involving racist actions towards black athletes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 And China is worse than even Europe in terms of anti-black/African prejudice. It's malicious. And they mostly think it's funny or innocuous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Boris Johnson removes himself as possible prime minister. Wow what a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 I've heard Hugh Grant was amenable to making himself available. And that Billy Bob Thornton was mounting an independent run in the US elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 Next British PM: https://vine.co/v/hgbab1H2LH7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 http://finance.yahoo.com/news/full-text-of...-115156180.html Text of Soros speech. For those unfamiliar with all of the issues involved, this is very informative. Heck, even if you don't agree with Soros politically, you'll still have a hard time arguing with his central thesis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 "Ahead of the vote last week, Soros had warned that if the British left the UK it would have effects on the British pound more disruptive than "Black Wednesday."" Great copy editing yahoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 12:49 PM) http://finance.yahoo.com/news/full-text-of...-115156180.html Text of Soros speech. For those unfamiliar with all of the issues involved, this is very informative. Heck, even if you don't agree with Soros politically, you'll still have a hard time arguing with his central thesis. First, it unleashed a crisis in the financial markets comparable in severity only to that of 2007/8. lolwat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 There are countries aside from US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) There are countries aside from US. yeah, but while the currency is still down, the stock markets have largely recovered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) There are countries aside from US. Where? I don't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 B>W, why are you in favor of Brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 QUOTE (bmags @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) There are countries aside from US. The DAX is the only one to have taken a major hit. Even the footsie is above pre-vote levels. The late summer crash last year was seemingly a lot more devastating than the last week after the brexit vote. And really that doesn't even matter. It's been a week, that's the biggest thing. The fallout from 2007-2008 is immeasurable and it's effects on the markets was years and years. Comparing the two a week in is just fear mongering at it's finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Nigel Farage, leader of the UKIP and one of the leading voices in favor of Leave, is resigning. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/...ruining-uk.html It's nice of Farage and Johnson to push for this vote and then bail out shortly after it passes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 5, 2016 -> 10:22 AM) Nigel Farage, leader of the UKIP and one of the leading voices in favor of Leave, is resigning. http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/...ruining-uk.html It's nice of Farage and Johnson to push for this vote and then bail out shortly after it passes. or, nice of politicians to leave when the accomplished what they said they would instead of sticking around like that annoying next door neighbor who doesn't know when to leave. And he is still staying in Parliment to oversee the transition, so not leaving entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 They haven't actually accomplished it yet, though. Parliament still needs to invoke Article 50, and then there needs to be a long, detailed negotiation between the UK and the EU. They just did the easiest part and are leaving the hard work to someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 6, 2016 Share Posted July 6, 2016 So, it's probably worth noting that although stock markets particularly in the US have mostly recovered from this vote the market in US Bonds is still reeling, with 10 year bonds in the US, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, and France hitting all-time record lows this week as people are buying them while fleeing the Pound and possibly as insurance against a future market downturn. Furthermore, analyses based on these shifts in the bond market are now consistent with the types of shifts commonly seen before recessions in the US, such that major banks are now beginning to predict substantial chances of a recession within the next 12 months. You may not be able to use the classic indicators for umpcoming recessions given that some of these shifts are due to a country deciding to destroy its economic base and that is quite unusual...but there's a worrisome pattern emerging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 First, it unleashed a crisis in the financial markets comparable in severity only to that of 2007/8. American markets at all time highes. Footsie (London) straight up since Brexit. Even the f***ing German Dax above pre brexit levels. Still waiting for this George. I need to make some money. You promised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted July 31, 2016 Share Posted July 31, 2016 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jun 30, 2016 -> 01:18 PM) B>W, why are you in favor of Brexit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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