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QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 05:24 PM) So to recap...Here are crazyman26's main points: Rex injury was not as severe as we thought, thus he could have played weeks before. Jerry Angelo is on record saying Kyle Orton is the starter in 2006, even though he said Rex is the starter. Rex Grossman has never been a starting QB and will never start a NFL game again, thus he should play for the CFL. Crazyman26's "friends" are always amazed how right he is 100% of the time and we will be too. Everyone caught up?...and ACTION! LOL! nice recap, Dan Roan!

its funny that the Texans first ever move was to try and solidy the O-line by drafting Tony Boselli in the expansion draft, but Tony Boselli never actually played for the Texans because he never recovered from the shoulder injuries that landed him on the expansion draft list in the first place.

That poor guy must have nightmares of LBs and DEs coming at him untouched. I think if he ever got a real NFL line he would be something else too. He has had some showings of greatness.

QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 03:41 PM) Ok, I've got it. crazyman26 = White Sox Josh Nah, Crazyman hasnt professed love for Orton, just hatred for Grossman. There is a small difference.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 03:11 PM) This can be a little graphic, so please ignore me if you have a weak stomach. You know how sometimes you can sprain ligaments? Well........... Yep, i was insinuating the same thing. It was also an especially funny episode of "The Drew Carey Show", right before they jumped the shark.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 03:38 PM) NFL starters typically only lose their jobs while they are hurt if the fill-in performs very well, or at least as well as the previous player did before he got hurt. Tom Brady and Larry Johnson are two prime examples. Orton didn't exactly blow anyone away with his performance. Very few GM's are going to say that someone is their starting QB on opening day of regular season (unless they have a stud like Manning or Brady), and certainly not any team that has any semblance of a QB controversy. You're basically arguing semantics and misreading what he is saying. Angelo is saying that right now Rex is the starting QB unless something happens (much like the last two years), not that he is expecting things to change in training camp. There is too much uncertainty right now to know who is going to start the first regular season game. It is possible that Orton could outperform him in camp and win the job, but in no way is he saying that he expects that to happen. It's also possible that Grossman gets hurt again, and then Orton would be the starter by default. But as of right now, Angelo is saying that Grossman is first string. There is no insinuation whatsoever that things are suddenly going to change in training camp. Just admit it. You know he is right.

QUOTE(crazyman26 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 03:19 PM) Starters at all positions lose their jobs to injury in the NFL. The GM said he was starter going into training camp, not the regular season, and also talked about how rookies like Orton play alot better in their 2nd and 3rd year. I already know what the GM was saying, Orton is starter next year, the funny thing is I bet none of you acknowledge I knew that all along when it happens and will just say I was lucky. In fact it will be that I knew all along. Alright buddy, you got it. I am going to put your lunacy on my sig until the start of the 2006-2007 season. When Grossman starts the season as the #1 starter, as he has the past 2 seasons, you can finally STFU seeing as you havent predicted anything correctly. You keep telling us that you predicted he wouldnt be a starter in the NFL 3 years ago, saying you knew he wasnt good enough. Using that logic, your prediction is WRONG because Rex has been the starter going into the past two seasons and only "lost" the job because he was injured for most of the past two seasons. It had nothing to do with performance, which is what you consistently indicate is the reason he wont be a #1 starter(much less a 3 or 4) in the NFL.

QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 03:06 PM) SBIMI. Whatever happened to him? his head exploded from a combination of bulls***, egotism and confetti.

QUOTE(crazyman26 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:51 PM) Sorry but to be considered a starting QB he needs to start alot more than 2 games in a given year, and I dont care if 1 of them is a playoff game. Lets say a player was healthy and benched almost all year, and was brough in to play the playoff game would you say he was the starting QB too? I know Rex was not healthy but my point is there is NOTHING so far to prove me wrong on him being a starting QB in the NFL, he has to be alot more games in a season than he so far, whether he plays a playoff game or not. Tell me why Orton was removed as the starter, and Grossman was inserted as a Starter. If the plan was to continue with Orton as the starter, there was no point in taking Orton out seeing how that would hurt his progression towards becoming a starter for 2006. So why was Orton taken out, Nostradamus?

QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:50 PM) I haven't read this thread, but I really hope the original post is a joke. I wish I could tell you it was.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:46 PM) Well i hope no one goes off on a wild tangent about things that HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH WUT I AM TALKING ABOUT. in my last thread, i simply wanted to know opinions about MB's contractual situation. somehow it got to timo being better than bonds? and in my opinion, MB is an ace,to us. on PAR with that of peavy,halladay and so on. he is not better, he is not worse, he is what you expect out of your number 1, he wins, and with a medicore offense.i dont expect MB to go out and rack up 10 k's or allow only 2 hits (which he can certainly do at times) i expect him to allow as little runs as possible, hold runners and win. period. MB is an exceptional pitcher, and has a chance at a legacy here in chicago, is he stays. he could end up winning 200+ games and a cy young or 2. im not saying he will, but i think hes that kind of pitcher. i also hope that he will one day be a 20 game winner, who knows, mayb its this year. in closing, i think we need MB to be the best he can, becuz he IS our ace, and our other pitchers look to him for that benchmark they should perform 2. MB is the most well liked pitchers on the south side since McDowell An Amalgam of idiocy. Nice work.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:42 PM) Ah, okay. Maybe I would have understood if I took the thread at all seriously. And mine is the unspoken name, but the answer to 'WWCND?' is always that he'll roundhouse kick someone. Which just seemed called for in this thread, so I took a guess. Yes! An uncalled-for Chuck Norris reference! Carry on! And for future reference, if me and rock start making jokes like "WW**D?" It usually means there is someone in the thread rapidly approaching ridiculous.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:39 PM) mine should be self-explanatory after that. I would think mine too.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:37 PM) Well, that was my response to yr post, too, so I guess that makes us even. What Would Crazy Man Do. Is that simple enough? When did we have to start explaining that one?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) Kyle Orton will be the Bears starting QB next year. LMAO

Yes I have hurt myself. Some things just dont bend that way, no matter how hard she tries.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:33 PM) WWCMD? or WWCND?

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 09:45 AM) Where and When did he say this?!? PS I call thread locked by 11:00am You lose! Im still in!

We are fast approaching WWCMD? territory.

QUOTE(crazyman26 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:28 PM) Well I guess you wouldnt be willing to give me credit for knowing all along Grossman will never be a starting QB, since you know I will never be proven wrong, and thus dont want to have to give me credit. I take that as a compliment. Thats the part that doesnt make sense. Tell me who started the playoff game.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:22 PM) Image doesn't show up. fixed

QUOTE(crazyman26 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:22 PM) I actually gauranteed 3 years ago when Grossman first came to Chicago he would never be a starting QB. So far I have been right but people tell me I am lucky to be right. It does not matter the reasons though, facts are facts, until he plays alot more than 2 starts in a single NFL season, he has never been a starting QB in the NFL, and I have been right since I predicted it 3 full years ago. Next year if he does not get injured, the people who discredit my prediction of 3 years ago will have run out of excuses I believe, since he will be on the bench behind Orton and no injury there as an excuse. They will have to concede I was right all along that Grossman would never be a starting QB in the NFL. Hopefully you will also concede that I knew all along what was going to happen if I turn out to be right, especialy if Rex does not get injured. You make no sense, whatsoever.

And why will Kyle Orton be the #1 Starter going into the 2006 season? BECAUSE JERRY ANGELO SAID SO!!! Or Maybe he didnt. Well he kinda did, but he didnt really. We just all think he did. Well maybe not "WE" but more like "ME". But not even me, it was just some crazy man......

QUOTE(crazyman26 @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 02:10 PM) If Rex was really going to be the starting QB next year, Angelo would have said, "Rex is our starter going into the season", instead he said, "Rex is our starter going into training camp". He would not say he is the starter going into the system because he knows already he isnt going to be, it is already a done deal in his mind. Also he talked about how rookies make their biggest progress in 2nd and 3rd years usually, he sounds like he is expecting that from Kyle, well you dont make progress sitting on the bench, obviously he is referring to the progress Kyle will be making on the field in competitive games. okie dokey. You are obviously the best at reading between the lines that anyone has ever seen.

QUOTE(Cuck the Fubs @ Feb 10, 2006 -> 01:52 PM) No, but Berrian came back from injury when Grossman went under center, and both of them got hurt in like week 5 Sooooooo, Grossman and Orton both got to throw to Berrian, Clark, Muhammed, Gage, Jones, and Peterson. The only "weapons" that Grossman didnt get to throw to were Bradley and Benson. So in reality, Grossman had less weapons than Orton did, and IMO ran a much smoother and dangerous offense.