McCain chooses Palin for VP

[bmags]

Given the circumstances, this is the best possible VP that McCain could've picked. Going with the "safer" choice of Romney or Pawlenty wasn't going to work this year.

 

Many people (correctly) point to gender/age identity playing a major role in the Palin decision, but that was far from the only consideration. Her voting record will energize the conservative base and her reform work against the "Good Ole' Boys" network in Alaska will weaken Obama's "Third Term of Bush" characterization of the ticket. Her charisma and speaking ability, while obviously not on the same level of Obama's, will certainly help to offset his.

 

How long will this "reformer" tag last considering she's in a scandal? Although I suppose McCain's "maverick" has played for a while.

[lostfan]

Add to the overused list 'grassroots', 'progressive', 'neocon' and 'change'.

I agree "Grassroots" is overused but it has a place in politics. But it's always overplayed.

 

"Progressive" is a euphemism for "liberal." But only because "liberal" has become a perjorative.

 

"Neocon" is a perjorative to describe a certain type of Republican, it kind of unfairly gets applied to all Republicans sometimes though.

 

"Change" will go away after this election fortunately. But even Republicans were using it a little until Obama started gaining momentum with it.

[lostfan]

Who in their right mind would feel comfortable with Obama as our leader if something were to happen to old man Biden? What a disastrous choice.

Huh?

[WCSox]

How long will this "reformer" tag last considering she's in a scandal? Although I suppose McCain's "maverick" has played for a while.

 

Good point, but that depends on whether the "scandal" has any validity. Given that she was just vetted with a fine-toothed comb, the McCain campaign obviously thinks that it probably doesn't.

 

 

[BigSqwert]

This pick makes my earlier prediction of an Obama landslide even easier. I can't wait until the 1st debate.

[Rex Kickass]

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me the big bipartisian achievement that Obama has made.

You can always ask Richard Lugar whether or not Obama worked together on Nuclear Proliferation issues. Or public health challenges, like a new Influenza epidemic.

[EvilMonkey]

How long will this "reformer" tag last considering she's in a scandal? Although I suppose McCain's "maverick" has played for a while.

You keep bringing that up, but it goes nowhere. Do you think that hasn't been looked at beforehand? It is nothing, and being brought to the forefront, like crap on both sides. Want scandal? How about Biden's lobbyist son and brother being sued right now, and their connections to companies that are some of his biggest contributors? How about bills cosponsored by Biden that directly benefit companies that the son represents? Also not going anywhere, just like Palin's police thing. Because other than the nice sounding headlines, nothing is there. You make no mention of the fact that the guy she fired was hired by her prdecessor. The fired guy had crime actually go up on his watch, despite a pledge to make it go down. And he also refused to follow the budget guidelines set by the state, routinely going over budget. Maybe he was fired because he wasn't doing his job.

[bmags]

You keep bringing that up, but it goes nowhere. Do you think that hasn't been looked at beforehand? It is nothing, and being brought to the forefront, like crap on both sides. Want scandal? How about Biden's lobbyist son and brother being sued right now, and their connections to companies that are some of his biggest contributors? How about bills cosponsored by Biden that directly benefit companies that the son represents? Also not going anywhere, just like Palin's police thing. Because other than the nice sounding headlines, nothing is there. You make no mention of the fact that the guy she fired was hired by her prdecessor. The fired guy had crime actually go up on his watch, despite a pledge to make it go down. And he also refused to follow the budget guidelines set by the state, routinely going over budget. Maybe he was fired because he wasn't doing his job.

 

maybe he was, but then why would she lie about saying she never talked about the brother in law with him? Why would they claim they never pressured him, then it comes out? There'd be no reason to try and cover your ass if it was just about his job.

[NorthSideSox72]

If that is the meaning of bipartisian, then every single member of congress falls under this umbrella and we should seriously stop using the word, because it is meaningless.

Its not meaningless - I just think you are trying to turn it into something on or off like a switch. Its not. Its a descriptive, as in, to what extent is someone bipartisan? Some in Congress virtually never work on bills with the other side, or vote with the other side. Others do it a lot. Obama is in between.

 

[DABearSoX]

I can't wait until the 1st debate.

 

I know...McCain is going to rip Barack apart b/c Obama can only read from a teleprompter...

[BigSqwert]

I know...McCain is going to rip Barack apart b/c Obama can only read from a teleprompter...

Indeed. McCain showed us all in the GOP primary debates that he is not one to mess with.

[EvilMonkey]

How long until Obama refers to her as 'sweetie'? (If there was a half green color, I would have used it)

[Rex Kickass]

Echoes of Hillary and PUMA waiting in the wings in Minnesota.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail...uised_feel.html

 

DENVER -- Though it was high in shock value, the Palin pick left bruised feelings among the short-list contenders who were not picked -- and infuriated some Republican officials who privately said McCain had gone out on a limb, unnecessarily, without laying the groundwork for such an unknown. Two senior Republican officials close to Mitt Romney and Tim

Pawlenty said they had both been rudely strung along and now "feel manipulated."

 

"They now know that they were used as decoys, well after McCain had decided not to pick them," one Republican involved in the process said.

[DABearSoX]

If that news quote is true that is pretty rough for McCain...Romney has got to be really pissed

[lostfan]

If that news quote is true that is pretty rough for McCain...Romney has got to be really pissed

It's not like they liked each other to begin with.

[bmags]

Who in their right mind would feel comfortable with Obama as our leader if something were to happen to old man Biden? What a disastrous choice.

about half of the country that was supporting him before his VP was even picked.

[WCSox]

about half of the country that was supporting him before his VP was even picked.

 

So, if the country doesn't have a problem with a guy with no substantial executive experience running for President, I doubt that they'll much mind somebody with executive experience (albeit slightly less overall government experience) running for Vice President.

 

[DABearSoX]

It's not like they liked each other to begin with.

 

Well obviously but still...probably not good for McCain and the voters in Romney's state

[EvilMonkey]

Well obviously but still...probably not good for McCain and the voters in Romney's state

Massachusetts, home of the Kennedy's was never going to go Republican in a national election anyway. As of the 2006 election, the Republican party holds less than 13% of the seats in both legislative houses of the General Court: in the House, the balance is 141 Democratic to 19 Republican, and in the Senate, 35–5. Although Republicans held the governor's office continuously from 1991 to 2007, they have mostly been among the most liberal Republican leaders in the nation, especially William Weld (the first of four recent Republican governors).

 

[EvilMonkey]

 

You want me to find the clip of Obama saying he wasn't going to run for President and that he wanted to become a really good Senator first before he even thought of running? Can't have it both ways, even thought you reeeeaaaalllyyy want to. Or of Biden saying that he wouldn't take the VP job, not interested?

[DABearSoX]

Massachusetts, home of the Kennedy's was never going to go Republican in a national election anyway. As of the 2006 election, the Republican party holds less than 13% of the seats in both legislative houses of the General Court: in the House, the balance is 141 Democratic to 19 Republican, and in the Senate, 35–5. Although Republicans held the governor's office continuously from 1991 to 2007, they have mostly been among the most liberal Republican leaders in the nation, especially William Weld (the first of four recent Republican governors).

 

 

Alrighty then...thank you very much

[StrangeSox]

Massachusetts, home of the Kennedy's was never going to go Republican in a national election anyway. As of the 2006 election, the Republican party holds less than 13% of the seats in both legislative houses of the General Court: in the House, the balance is 141 Democratic to 19 Republican, and in the Senate, 35–5. Although Republicans held the governor's office continuously from 1991 to 2007, they have mostly been among the most liberal Republican leaders in the nation, especially William Weld (the first of four recent Republican governors).

 

Romney has strong ties to Michigan, though.

[StrangeSox]

So, if the country doesn't have a problem with a guy with no substantial executive experience running for President, I doubt that they'll much mind somebody with executive experience (albeit slightly less overall government experience) running for Vice President.

 

The point with her experience is that it can knock the wind out of the sails of McCain's attacks on Obama over the same issue.

[HuskyCaucasian]

The point with her experience is that it can knock the wind out of the sails of McCain's attacks on Obama over the same issue.

Per the Far Right TownHall.com and Republican AP Shill Ron Fournier:

If Obama is an empty suit, as McCain has suggested, is Palin suited for the Oval Office herself? She is younger and less experienced than the first-term Illinois senator... A governor for just 20 months, she was two-term mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, a town of 6,500 where the biggest civic worry is whether there will be enough snow for the Iditarod.

[DukeNukeEm]

Im not trying to be antogonistic, but I have no idea what her stances are on the issues are. I know she likes guns, is pro-life and doesn't like those gays... but thats about it. Who is this woman?

Edited August 29, 2008 by DukeNukeEm