southsider2k5 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 23m The group that has worked with Matt Davidson on his defense has combined for 16 Gold Gloves. #WhiteSox http://bit.ly/1fbrDOK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Doug Padilla @ESPNChiSox 4h Coop says Erik Johnson "firmly" penciled into an Opening Day rotation spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Phil Rogers speculated the White Sox primary catcher in 2014 is not yet with the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 18, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Phil Rogers speculated the White Sox primary catcher in 2014 is not yet with the team. While I think this is a distinct possibility, I would say that the best odds lay in the Sox 2014 starting catcher already being with the team. It's a very fluid situation at this point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 18, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Phil Rogers speculated the White Sox primary catcher in 2014 is not yet with the team. That's f***ing interesting, man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 18, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Phil Rogers speculated the White Sox primary catcher in 2014 is not yet with the team. If it were Jan 1, I could even see that. Today? Not so much. Interesting to note though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 It's a tidbit worth mentioning though. Discussion around here is still down because it's like the 4th day of Spring Training. Even if it's Phil, who I think is full of crap 99% of the time, it's worth asking - is there going to be a catcher who will become available that the Sox can trade for this spring? They certainly aren't going to sign one of the remaining players and make them an every day starter, but none of Flowers, Phegley, nor Nieto inspire a lot of confidence. I'd personally go with what they have, but if they can find someone available that's worth it for a guy like De Aza or Gillaspie, I have no problem with said move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 18, 2014 -> 03:55 PM) I'd personally go with what they have, but if they can find someone available that's worth it for a guy like De Aza or Gillaspie, I have no problem with said move. Clearly no one would...but worth considering that if Rogers were right...it would mean going into the season with a catcher who hadn't worked with the pitching staff very much. That would be disconcerting on its own if the team cared about competing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Feb 18, 2014 -> 02:55 PM) It's a tidbit worth mentioning though. Discussion around here is still down because it's like the 4th day of Spring Training. Even if it's Phil, who I think is full of crap 99% of the time, it's worth asking - is there going to be a catcher who will become available that the Sox can trade for this spring? They certainly aren't going to sign one of the remaining players and make them an every day starter, but none of Flowers, Phegley, nor Nieto inspire a lot of confidence. I'd personally go with what they have, but if they can find someone available that's worth it for a guy like De Aza or Gillaspie, I have no problem with said move. I can't see any team being willing to move a starting caliber starting catcher at this time frame. Certainly not for De Aza or Gillaspie. We are talking a Quintana or Johnson type of pitcher to get that piece, assuming it were actually available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 What the f*** catcher could possibly be brought in at this point? Chris Widger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 18, 2014 -> 02:44 PM) Phil Rogers speculated the White Sox primary catcher in 2014 is not yet with the team. If that's coming from Rogers, I'd guarantee it's Flowers, Phegley, or Nieto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 40m Paul Konerko: "last year was nobody's fault, but it was everybody's fault." Said #WhiteSox went to place mentally can't escape from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentmd2 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 I watched a video on the white sox site and seen Avi in the video. That guy looks huge! Can't tell if it's all good weight but his neck looks like a Linebackers! It's crazy how well he moves for his size. I am very excited for the season with all the young talent we have moving forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 1m Konerko on A. Garcia: He can be average & power, he can go out & hit .260 w/ 40 HRs. He really has potential to be monster in this league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 11:18 AM) Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 1m Konerko on A. Garcia: He can be average & power, he can go out & hit .260 w/ 40 HRs. He really has potential to be monster in this league. Oh paulie, stop getting us excited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 12:18 PM) Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 1m Konerko on A. Garcia: He can be average & power, he can go out & hit .260 w/ 40 HRs. He really has potential to be monster in this league. .260 isn't a great "average" paulie, esp. with that number of HR's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 01:17 PM) .260 isn't a great "average" paulie, esp. with that number of HR's. .260 with 40 homers in this day and age? Two guys did that in all of baseball last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 (edited) Supposedly in BP Garcia hits the ball as far as Dunn. His problem is during games he hits groundballs at the same rate as slap hitters, and doesn't get on base via anything but a hit very often. If he can get the ball in the air, he could be a huge power guy, but that is easier said than done. Edited February 20, 2014 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 11:18 AM) Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN 1m Konerko on A. Garcia: He can be average & power, he can go out & hit .260 w/ 40 HRs. He really has potential to be monster in this league. I doubt either of those things will happen. I don't think he'll ever hit 40. I think he'll probably max out around 30 give or take. And I'll be disappointed if he only hits .260. I think Garcia at his best will be very similar to Alex Rios at his best. .280-.300 with 20-30 homeruns and I'm okay with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 What I got out of Konerko's statement was that he could be a great hitter for average and power. Meaning like he could hit .310 with 15 jacks or .260 with 40 jacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) Supposedly in BP Garcia hits the ball as far as Dunn. His problem is during games he hits groundballs at the same rate as slap hitters, and doesn't get on base via anything but a hit very often. If he can get the ball in the air, he could be a huge power guy, but that is easier said than done. I think it was Garfein that tweeted that Garcia hit the front of the fundamentals deck last year in BP. I don't think that's ever been done in a game as the only two guys we've had that kind of power have been left handed (Thome, Dunn). Frank certainly would have hit it a couple times had it been there during his prime. That takes big time power. Garcia, Abreu and Viciedo have that kind of power but like you said, Garcia just doesn't get the ball in the air enough and Tank seems to hit either ropes that just get over the fence or insanely high fly ball homeruns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) I think it was Garfein that tweeted that Garcia hit the front of the fundamentals deck last year in BP. I don't think that's ever been done in a game as the only two guys we've had that kind of power have been left handed (Thome, Dunn). Frank certainly would have hit it a couple times had it been there during his prime. That takes big time power. Garcia, Abreu and Viciedo have that kind of power but like you said, Garcia just doesn't get the ball in the air enough and Tank seems to hit either ropes that just get over the fence or insanely high fly ball homeruns. I was at a game either last season or the season before where someone, I think on the Royals, hit one into the last section of the club level down the LF line. Supposedly in BP, Barry Bonds hit one down the RF line in the upper deck that went into the last exit. Even roided up, that is quite a poke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 01:41 PM) I think it was Garfein that tweeted that Garcia hit the front of the fundamentals deck last year in BP. I don't think that's ever been done in a game as the only two guys we've had that kind of power have been left handed (Thome, Dunn). Frank certainly would have hit it a couple times had it been there during his prime. That takes big time power. Garcia, Abreu and Viciedo have that kind of power but like you said, Garcia just doesn't get the ball in the air enough and Tank seems to hit either ropes that just get over the fence or insanely high fly ball homeruns. FWIW, I believe it was Rongey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 01:17 PM) .260 isn't a great "average" paulie, esp. with that number of HR's. You have to be joking. also, as someone else pointed out, I think he meant more of an either-or thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 20, 2014 Share Posted February 20, 2014 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 20, 2014 -> 02:59 PM) You have to be joking. also, as someone else pointed out, I think he meant more of an either-or thing. I certainly can't see that given the use of "and". I read that as "he can put up average and power". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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