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Nope it just says what he's capable of to people who say the Sox don't know how to handle pitchers. Got him back on track with the changeup and voila looked better than he had all year with Seattle . The stuff is certainly there. What do you think so far looking good or a disaster ? or wait and see which had always been my stance since I gave my 1st thoughts on the trade.

I'll put it behind a spoiler mods if you want to delete it go ahead

His first MLB start was so good. Not the rest obviously. Hope for rotation in the future though.

Exactly why they should have gotten another starter before the deadline. It’s been their only inexcusable failure this season IMO. Ways to shut me the f*** up: 1.) Davis returns to form. 2.) One of Thorpe / Smith / Schultz / Sandlin prove to be viable rotation piece. 3.) Starting pitching isn’t an issue in the post season. AND They also get a frontline starting pitcher this offseason via trade or free agency.

And the Sox got Bryan Hudson from the Brewers and he has 1.2 War. But then traded him for cash to the Mets , then got him back when the Mets DFA him. Are we even or ahead of Milwaukee now ? White Sox got cash and the same player back so ahead of the Mets . Fleeced them for Robert too which set up a bunch of other guys being signed and Dominquez helped offset the Castillo salary. Don't forget Shane Smith might still recover. Are you keeping your eyes on Gage Ziehl now for future reference. Sox sent him to Boston to get Sandlin and Hicks and pay for Hicks 2/$24M and Red Sox chipped in $8M so White Sox basically paying Hicks $8 a year for 26 & 27. Pretty cool that the salary dump is turning out to be worth it. Aso we never did find out about the 2 players to be name later the Sox were supposed to receive and then 1 that was supposed to go to Boston did we ? It's a dizzying array of moves and that's just the tip of the iceberg over the last couple years. So still don't see a point. Some work some don't. Pretty hard to keep track of it all unless you want to pull one up just to make some strange point that sometimes players you trade do well for a little while as do players you get back in trades ?

He also dominated in his 2 postseason starts in 2021, although I doubt he is that same guy these days.

So what. He’s a sinker baller that neutralizes park factor by keeping the ball on the ground. He has a career rate of 0.8 HR / per 9 at fields known to be hitter friendly. Compare throwing bullpen games, playing fifth starter craps with a bunch of unproven guys, or having someone else like Webb that you can put at the front of the rotation until 2029. That is worth the price in my mind. Sets us up as legit contenders to play meaningful post season baseball THIS year and sets us up for the next two years thereafter. Burke / Webb / Castillo line up perfectly in a 5 game series. Also puts us in a good position for a best of 7.

No, it was 6-9. I believe he was on a date and scored more than the Sox today.

If the Sox don’t win anything this season or next, and Boston Smith turns into a legit major league hitter, this trade will suck. It’s as simple as that.

One good start and you're already declaring the trade a victory?

They don't play Manfred ball in the playoffs 😎

True and that was my concern about the trades in general if any of them didn't move the needle much. But the Castillo trade does since he has shown that he is still very capable of being very good. But it also may not move the needle much if Davis Martin can't get his act together and the Sox messed with a guy like Fedde who was actually having success to accommodate Schultz. If you just look at his stuff I lean towards it not being an aberration now that he's back to throwing his change up against LHH. But this is how it is when you are still searching for a team to win at a better rate than the Sox have been hovering at for 2 months now. It's hard to get all the pieces firing on all cylinders when you have so many guys coming up and still roster churning looking for guys to step up . It'll work and then it won't and someone you had for a brief time clicks with another team. Mead goes but Peters stays. Sox claim Bryan Hudson from Brewers, Sox trade him to the Mets for cash, then the Mets let him go and the Sox reclaim him all in a 7 month period. Mead traded for Boston SMith. Boston Smith helps get Castillo. Originally Mead (along with Duncan Davitt and Ben Peoples) was traded by the Rays to the Sox for Adrian Houser who was released from the Rangers and the Sox signed for $1.35M 5/20/25. Duncan Davitt got us Joey Bart. Joey Bart getting injured led to claiming Jake Rodgers. Round and round we go. They also got Shane Smith and Mike Vasil in the Rule 5 both were good for them last year and non factors this year.

Glad to have you back

Is that 6-0 at the beach?

If I were a fan it would've started with trading Skubal. It's the we can't have nice things,

That's how the Sox are developing them these days; or how a lot of them are turning out. But, yea, it would be nice to see more batting average.

Poor baby.

I'm a huge Chicago sports guy. Love the bears, Bulls, Blackhawks and Sox. Followed them all since I was very young but Sox are easily my favorite out of them all. Maybe I've mellowed as I age but I feel very lucky to have seen a Superbowl winner , all the Bulls and Blackhawks championships and even a White Sox Championship. That's 11 Champions ! (12 if you count the Cubs. Growing up it was like Chicago didn't have a Champion since the 1961 Blackhawks and 1963 Bears both of which I was too young to remember and the Bears broke the ice in 1986 As a sports fan and Chicago fan in particular., I feel so blessed. I just can't get all worked up about the bad things although I do save most of my ire towards ownership and my worried, scared and scarred , very critical fellow fans.

I think he's building the most profitable venture imaginable: Six Flags.

This is payback for the 2024 Sox sending three Central teams to the playoffs

I agree with you and I think he’s traded in the offseason.

Or you could say they believe in him more than any other catcher not named Teel and want him to work on a select few things while still getting daily at bats.

One major league starter in Thorpe, even if he’s a #5 starter, would look like a win at this point with that putrid trade. We might not have even gotten back a prospect that will be as good as Boston Smith in hindsight.

Repeating value to demonstrate that start wasn’t an aberration is still a valid concern.

0-2 with 2 errors for Roch. Kind of a rough week for him.