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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Chicago White Sox replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
maxjusttyped replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I cannot imagine how anyone could see how Reinsdorf teams have operated for ~40+ years and think he'd be willing to operate at a loss for 1 year let alone several. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
46DidIt replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Do you have a credible source for that -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
"San Diego Padres explore sale of team two years after owner Seidler's death. LAS VEGAS — The San Diego Padres, who are about $300 million in debt, are exploring the possibility of selling the franchise, the team announced Thursday at the end of the GM Meetings." Go look at the Forbes team valuations in 2006 and compare to 2025. https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Daily/Issues/2006/04/21/The-Back-Of-The-Book/Forbes-Releases-MLB-Franchise-Valuations-Yankees-Top-$1B/ The franchise values have BOTH increased to roughly $1.8 billion...but SD has been one of the most entertaining teams since 2019 and a constant Top 5 attendance presence. 4/6 playoffs made, etc. Four playoff series victories. Knocked off Dodgers in 2022. SD is just over luxury tax threshold 2025. $4-5 million in luxury tax. Also just added almost $90 million in new contracts this week. Darvish Bogaerts Cronenworth Merrill Musgrove Tatis Machado all over $100 million...Tatis/Machado $330ish. Added Pivetta $55 million last off season. King @ $75 million. Two very distinct ways to run a team, but ending up in the same franchise valuations despite one being decidedly small market. The only difference is $150 million in debt. But still $200 million less debt than the Twins. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WhiteSox2023 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The Sox have been losing money year after year according to SS2K5. An easy way to soften those losses is to slash payroll. Especially right before you are planning to sell the team in 2029. And I am not buying that Ishbia is going to fund any Sox offseason until he actually owns the team. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
ChiSoxFanMike replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’m guessing Robert will be traded at some point, so it’s basically Benintendi, Kay (who will probably be traded too if he’s any good), and then a bunch of guys making league minimum in 2027. It’s basically as clean of a slate as you’ll get from a payroll standpoint. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WhiteSox2023 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The truth is that Jerry isn’t approving any real spending outside of cheap low tier free agents until he sells the team. It’s been funny reading this site and posters still having hope that Getz will sign some decent free agents. Guys like O’Hearn and Fairbanks are more than likely out of the range of what Getz can even spend. Jhonkensy Noel for 1B is right up Getz’s alley, just like Everson Pereira was for RF/CF. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Bob Sacamano replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I won’t hold my breath - Today
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
almagest replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Clearly, we should all 100% believe this Twitter rando. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Bob Sacamano replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2025/12/pirates-designate-marco-luciano-tsung-che-cheng-for-assignment.html Now you’re speaking Jerry’s Chenguage -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
The problem is can anyone be sure about Tucker for $300-425 million? Those sure things like a Tyler Glasnow or Dylan Cease have even more risk attached at peak FA rates. Same with Valdez and Imai, for that matter. Would anyone be really excited about Bellinger, for that matter? Enough to go out and buy a new jersey? You need the type of players little kids dream about being (see PCA). That's also part of the inherent responsibility of owners in the entertainment business. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WhiteSox2023 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I doubt they want to risk adding another potential bloated contract if they aren’t sure about the guy to begin with. They already have to sell Robert and his $20 million plus his $2 million buyout on some team and have no hopes of dumping Benintendi’s remaining 2-years and $31 million. That’s already $53 million dollars the Sox don’t want on their payroll over the next two seasons. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Tier B is where the White Sox have committed almost all of their big FA mistakes. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
fathom replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Of course, but Jerry sucks -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
ChiSoxFanMike replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’m not expecting them to spend until after the lockout issues are resolved. It would be nice to see them try to improve though. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
ChiSoxFanMike replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’d take Okamoto or O’Hearn as alternatives, but I just don’t think those guys have the same ceiling of Murakami. Take a big swing for once. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
fathom replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
They’re not going to spend like you think they should, end of story -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
ChiSoxFanMike replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
You’re not wrong, but this is the perfect time for them to take a risk. The payroll is basically non-existent. If he doesn’t translate, then it’s unfortunate but at least they tried. But there is also the possibility that he is a monster. And he fits in perfectly from an age/skillset standpoint. -
WestEddy named as Getz lieutenant?
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Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
And Okamoto would be 30-31, then 32-33 in the years they most needed him to perform. Equally risky, albeit maybe 60% of the financial commitment of Murakami. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Shock the world...you've got Darvsh rehabbing, new Korean infielder and Matsui, Japanese reliever to sell SD. That would also put them in play for Imai...who seemed headed for AL/NL East or SFG. Also, Sasaki had them second, Toronto third. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
Y2Jimmy0 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
He has massive raw power but it's really frightening strikeout potential and in zone swing and miss rates. Like some of the worst in the league as soon as he signs. He might be able to overcome it with his power but this isn't some home run signing. He's incredibly risky. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WhiteSox2023 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Do you have an any more details on this? What qualities/attributes don’t interest them? Curious… And if they are going to go dirt cheap, then work a waiver claim/trade for Big Christmas and try him out at 1B. -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
caulfield12 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Two Ivy Leaguers... -
Winter Meetings Dec. Trades FA Signings Thread
WhiteSox2023 replied to caulfield12's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I’m sure Getz is probably interested but Jerry doesn’t want to spend any money.
