WestEddy

Bryan Ramos is raking at AAA. I'm not sure why bringing him up to the parent club and DFAing Senzel is a bad move. They should also drop Bush back to AAA and maybe get another look at Nastrini. Have an extra bullpen arm until Bush's slot comes up again. I don't get Jacob Amaya, but maybe it's just to have a body at AAA to replace Ramos. Again, I don't see how parking a warm body at AAA is an example of "being bad at his job".

Maybe those are the scouts they're paying to not scout, right now.

I'd flip him with Vargas, give Vargas a week or so to calm down and get whatever he had, back.

I'm sorry, did I somehow wreck a Gavin Sheets trade by anticipating it? LOL. He's a lefty bench bat, which is what I've been calling him all year. I'm not sure why calling him a guy who has value makes you angry.

I don't see anywhere in that article where he promised a .500 team. He talked about acquiring players who could eventually be part of a winning team, and they have to make moves to try to get better.

Again, the guy who declares every move a disaster calls the Vargas and Fletcher trades ....... disasters. LOL. I'd hope you're basing this on something more than 68 plate appearances. You know, a small sample size? I would hope you're posting the same thing multiple times a day across multiple threads in the service of an agenda. If you honestly can't remember the previous 9 times you pronounced the current Gavin Sheets hot streak over, or that you're crying, laughing so hard at Chris Flexen not being traded, that could be a problem.

I remember Getz saying he didn't like this team over the winter, or at the beginning of spring training. I don't remember him declaring the White Sox would win 81 games.

I'm not living in fantasyland, either. You keep imagining I'm thinking or saying things I'm not. You seem to have a beef with an idealized version of me who is claiming that Getz is doing the best job in all of baseball, and that their w-l record is actually inverted. If Getz turns around and trades Crochet this offseason for a package centered around Eloy, or something like that, I might start judging him poorly. He's a new GM who was left a shitshow. He's made a few mistakes, and made some good moves. There's an agenda here where a small bunch of people don't want anyone to develop the idea that Getz might actually be moving the organization in a positive direction.

Then I hope you talk to a professional about this so it doesn't ruin the next 10 years of your life.

Who cares? My Met-fan friends are often happy when I'm with them, and we have a good time. They don't spend our time together being inconsolable about 1962.

Nobody has a problem accepting that JR is old, doesn't want to start all over with a bunch of strangers, so he hired Getz, said some BS he didn't even believe, and then went back to work trying to get Illinois to give him free money. I never even went back to listen to the press conference. I don't care what Reinsdorf said. Getz is saying the organization needs to be overhauled, they need to bring people in from outside to immerse themselves in the current trends, etc. Getz is the GM. He is saying the right things. This is a lost season. I'd rather they didn't break the Mets' record, but it won't change my life one way or the other.

W-L records don't matter this year, until they do. While I find it frustrating, I don't take on some deep level of humiliation that you appear to. I hope you get over it.

Bowden is roundly dismissed as an idiot. You can tell me as many times as you need to that your opinion is that Getz sucks. You can also punctuate it with the lockdown thing I said once in spring training. I'm not going to jump on that bandwagon because I'm angry about a press conference a year ago. I don't know what JR told Getz to do. Neither do you. Whereas a bunch of people here make up their own reality about Getz's thinking, I get to believe there's a reasonable explanation for the weird decisions around this club.

Then don't watch him.

Don't bother. I'm not trying to "prove" that Getz hosed all of baseball in the Fedde trade.

Well, having managed people in my life, and having taken over other managers' messes, I understand giving the people who report to me some guidance, and seeing if they can be untracked. It seems to me he started his vision with the pitching situation, hired his guy, implemented his system, and brought in a bunch of cheap projects to try it out on.

Nastrini has actually been doing better his last few outings. I'm not sure how he became "my boy". Had I been carpet posting positive assessments of him all year? Getz focused on one area, and that move looks like a winner. Do you know that JR wanted Grifol fired and Getz went to the mat for him? And are you actually trying to say that while Getz was playing 2B for the Royals, he hired Marco Paddy as White Sox head of international scouting? You don't seem to be arguing anything other than you don't like Chris Getz. I am truly sorry that I hurt you by looking for a positive in our bullpen during spring training, and calling them "lockdown" once. I agree with you that the Sox' record is 31-99.

Nobody thought this team was going to be good. Maybe the complete tank was a way to get JR to focus on modernization. At least that's what I'm hoping.

The guy who calls every move a disaster evaluates this trade as ..... a disaster!! I am surprise.

Keith Law had no criticism of the Fedde trade, James Fox felt it was a prospect short. I do think Getz got taken in by the 3-team malarkey. There were no top 100 prospects traded this deadline, and Vargas was a top 40 just last year, so I'm willing to give him an off-season to see if they work with him. Kopech was horrible until about 2 outings before the trade deadline. We could have gotten more if he was traded on his own, but it's not like we were trading a shut down closer with a great track record.

Horrible? Everything I've read says that the Fedde trade looks like he came up one prospect short, and the rest (Eloy, Banks, DeJong) were actually good trades. Miguel Vargas was a top 40 prospect just last year, so I'm going to wait and see on him for a little bit.

Yeah, he probably has. That's why he picked one area to completely redo as his first act, bring in Bannister, and overhaul pitching development. And that seems to have worked out very well. So you've proven to me that Getz seems to know what he's doing, and is executing well. He probably took a hard look at amateur and international scouting, letting Paddy complete a full scouting cycle with some new direction to see how he proceeded. He probably was told to hold on to Grifol and his coaches, give him a couple "clubhouse leaders" to see how he managed, and that played out. Pretending that Getz was solely responsible for every part of every mess he inherited is silly. The illogic of those assertions make me cut Getz even more slack.

So does whatever he ate for breakfast today. I get it. You don't like Chris Getz. What's your point beyond that?

Isn't the main window for hiring the GM meetings, or the owners' meetings in December? Getz was hired in mid-August, giving him about 10 weeks of baseball activity to evaluate the organization. My guess is that he fixed one area with the Bannister hire, and then gave himself a year to evaluate the rest of the operation. I don't see him answering questions honestly (which is what everyone's screaming for) about different areas (hitting development, international scouting, etc) as throwing people under the bus, or admitting that he was at fault for those people being there in the first place. He actually gave everybody in the organization an entire year to either expose or exonerate themselves. Marco Paddy's biggest international signing this cycle (Eduardo Herrera) just OPSed .573 in the Dominican League. It's good that the GM is recognizing areas that aren't producing, and is openly talking about moving on.

That's how I became a "Chris Getz burner account". Every move must confirm that Getz is "in over his head". It's not hypocritical or even ironic that a guy hired for a job understands he has to get new ideas from outside the organization.