WestEddy

So tell me, do the directors of player development also run the draft and international scouting for those organizations? That's the thing you guys keep tap dancing around. Hostetler was so great at drafting that he was relieved of his duties by the previous GM. Marco Paddy was so great that he just got fired this year. I laid out a pretty simple argument. The White Sox minor league system was woefully behind the rest of baseball in all new development tools and methods. AGAIN - weird that as soon as Getz became GM, he started updating those tools, methods and areas. Are you all saying that he had state of the art tools, and didn't use them so he could get everyone fired and become GM? That's silly. I'm guessing he did what he could with what he had. I'm also guessing that player development isn't all that difficult. That's why it's basically entry level. The director isn't coaching or teaching the players. He's not drafting or signing free agents. He administrates. The high level talent they had, were promoted. Are you saying that John Parke and Blake Battenfield were HOF staff aces that just weren't developed properly? Weird how the same guy did develop guys like Davis Martin, or Jonathan Cannon.

1. The director of player development doesn't make draft picks. 2. If they drafted somebody's 86 year old grandmother, does that mean she can be developed into a top star in the game? I invite you to tell me all the top draft picks Getz was handed, and failed to develop. No, you don't get to mention Andrew Vaughn, who was promoted by the brass after 243 minor league plate appearances. You don't get to mention Garrett Crochet who completely skipped the minors. I took the time to give you a thorough answer. Give me an example of anything besides how angry and lazy you are.

I'm sure if my logic is so flawed, one day you'll be able to point out how. Until then, I'll just grow old. Then die. Then haunt my house for the ensuing 5 or 6 decades.

I'm imagining another internet persona who spends his work day scrolling through SoxTalk to hate on the guy who makes regular, logical arguments for patience.

I'm busy imagining the pitchers he loves being traded because they're in a rebuild, and Crochet would become a free agent well before their competitive window.

Nobody ever said he had "nothing" to do with previous failures. If companies only hired people who never made mistakes, the entire population would be unemployed. Tell me, if you ever had a sh*t job, where the boss obviously ran a bad organization, do you tell that to every potential employer when you interview? "I worked for a fundamentally flawed organization, and I will continue to make the same mistakes they did, so you probably shouldn't hire me." Because, of course, nobody can ever learn from working in a bad system to be able to make it better. LMFAO!!

Minnesota? Byron Buxton just played 102 games this season. The first time he's played more than 100 since 2017. As you imply, that's a failure of development. Dodgers? Half their pitching staff is out at any given time. They have to sign every single free agent because all of the players they "develop" never were developed to not get injured. Athletics?!? Sean Murphy and AJ Puk are the only positive WAR players they've drafted and put on the field in the last decade. That's sure the core of their next World Series winner!! I guess that's what "consistent" means to these kids, nowadays! LOL.

Then you're going to have to tell me about the special coaching methods where players never regress or get injured for the rest of their careers.

And that high end talent graduated to the bigs. Not sure how that's a failure, but .... okay.

I think Getz wants that draft pick. And what we're thinking is too much, just listening to the FutureSox podcast, they brought up there's not many pure CFs on the market, so as Santander and Bellinger shake out, somebody might wind up on the outside looking in, and pull the trigger at close to the price tag.

Anything that makes the Reds panic and throw in their 2025 competitive balance draft pick.

Dude, it's baseball. Calm down.

You're right. You baseball so much better than I do. LOL.

Because he'd be just one of a bunch of Japanese players on a team. He'd be the only one on the Sox, therefore, solely representing the Sox' end of the "rivalry". Laughing? Okay. The Sox were mentioned as a team being seriously considered. It's not like they threw the Savannah Bananas at the end of the list to fill it out. If this was Angelstalk, all of you glum ones would be crawling over each other to shut down any happy talk with a declaration that the Angels would never win again until Artie Moreno died.

Bohm would be sent to the As, and the As would send Muncy to the White Sox for the privilege.

Chicago's a destination. Again, we're already going to have a team of rookies. Roki could be the veteran of the rotation. We're slotting in 1st or 2nd year guys at 4-5 positions a night. The team will already be sneaking up on some in 2026. Not saying they'll be in the pennant race, but they'll have nice streaks that'll make the summer interesting. There are already Japanese players in Chicago to lean on. The Cubs/Sox rivalry is fun in a way that I don't think the Mets/Yanks or Dodgers/Angels are.

What a catastrophe that pick was. I hate playing the game of "Look who was drafted after him!!" (Bradfield, Lombard, Aiden Miller, Brice Matthews, BTW), but I'm curious who Mike Shirley was focused on when Jeremy Haber allegedly made the call on Gonzo.

Why laughed at? It's silly to pretend that the White Sox will never win 60 games in a season again. The FO will be relatively stable while Reinsdorf's alive. He's getting in on the ground floor of a rebuild, and will be the man for all 6 seasons on the South Side. If the Sox or subsequent owners don't step up to the plate, dude's a free agent at 28. Already, 2025's going to be a "Kids Can Play" season. 26 is only going to be more fun for the team as they grow into a contender. It's a compelling situation, and it looks like the only team being mentioned from that angle.

All these baseball people and players "buying in" to Chris Getz' vision. Why not Sasaki?

Plus, the Canadian dollar is worth about 70 US cents.

Weird that the Orioles aren't shaking all the trees for guys like this.

You seem to be claiming that Getz was given the best talent in the game, and he failed to "develop" it. Caulfield is pointing out that most of the talent that was shipped out hasn't really been unlocked by other, more superior organizations.

3rd rounders - Alex Call (2016), Luis Gonzalez (2017) and Konner Pilkington (2018) were all traded and made the bigs with other teams. Gonzalez and Pilkington were progressing nicely when traded. Weird how their acquiring teams couldn't unlock that next level in them. Dalquist (2019) and Coffey (2020) are being groomed as bullpen arms. Sean Burke (2021) and Jonathan Cannon (2022) look to be in our rotation this season. Yeah, totally ruined all these guys and didn't develop them.