WestEddy

Switch-hitter, Albuquerque numbers are probably inflated, 14 HRs in 370 PAs, 2020 1st rounder. 2024 - .297/.339/.499

A nice article at SoxMachine that explains Derek Hill's contract, how and why it works. With Derek Hill's split contract, White Sox are trying to create options where none exist - Sox Machine SPOILER: He's paid well if he clears waivers and goes to AAA - that makes him a hefty claim for a minor league OF.

If he's hitting .100/.200/.230 in the middle of June, I'll bet they can convince him to get optioned.

Do you not understand the meaning of words? He said: He expects Robert to be their CF, but they'll listen. Point out the lie.

Pitcher for the Rockies would probably be a last choice, right after Savannah Bananas.

He didn't say it's not happening. He said he expects LRJ to be their CF, although they'll listen to offers. Half the people complaining about this situation agree that they expect him to open the year in CF. I believe you even said that. You seem to imply that not bearing one's soul and spilling out all of one's motivations and goals is "lying". I laugh with you.

He's a Svengali, manipulating everybody he encounters - while being too dumb to make the correct statement to the press. Like threading two needles, miles away from each other, with the same camel. Only one group of clever posters can decipher the deception. The rest of us are smitten. If you'll excuse me, I have some real property to transfer over to GetzCo. I don't know why. I just do.

TLA

All that development investment, only to lose him for nothing...

Curses!!

You started chasing me yesterday when you basically implied that we need to stop making non-negative comments. I'm not telling you to be quiet. I'm asking you to explain your criticisms. Other astute posters have just clocked in and expressed no real confusion about how the White Sox are conducting themselves here.

Yeah, SS2k5 was the one who actually convinced me to give up the ghost on 5 WAR Robert, and realize he's a 2 bWAR player over 162, which translates to a 1.5 WAR dude over the 100 games he'll be available for. But the Sox probably think there's a little more helium to that 85 OPS+, and he covers CF better than anybody they have for now.

They said they expect Robert to be their CF, but they'll listen on him. I'm still waiting for you show us the lie. I'm just trying to think along with how the off-season is progressing. I don't need to imagine everybody wearing sweat shirts labeled "Good" and "Evil" for the world to make sense to me. Again, I would love for you to question the GM you say is so great and powerful. Let us know when you're going to start doing that, instead of dogging conversations about Luis Robert's trade value and market and trying to force us to admit really bad things are happening to us.

I don't disagree. But there seems to be some frustration over Chris Getz not announcing a blow by blow commentary of any trade discussions, or to settle for a package that has less value than just plugging a very good defensive CF into a lineup with no better options in the system. I mean, every team in transience announces a core player or two who is untouchable, and they listen on any phone calls they get. I also don't get the notion that we all have to pretend the White Sox front office is regularly asking for Crochet-like packages in exchange for Robert and are befuddled when the line goes dead. It's kind of insulting to demand we all pretend that. Nobody walks into a car dealership and announces the highest price they're willing to pay. It's a game. So is the trade market. I suppose I'll be accused of writing pages of "WestEddy Getz" in my notebook because I only think he's acting the way the rest of the league does.

No wait. I recall you being in finance, or something. Do you announce what stocks you're going to be buying up in the next month, and which you won't be? I'm surprised that business-speak makes you angry. Everybody does that. The entire world blows smoke up each other's heinies. There's probably player agreement or tampering rules that govern how much they have to thread the needle about trades and such. Again, I know it's frustrating, but I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp that there's a line where it's worth more to plug Robert into CF than let him go for non-entities. Is Getz supposed to settle and just take what the market's offering, even while the free agency market hasn't really started to play out? If you know about these talks with the Reds and Mets (beyond what little's been reported), are they packages you wouldn't complain about once executed?

I'm going to get labeled as a Getz-lover, just because I'm trying to glean some sense from this. Can you tell me where the lie is here? “It’s very truthful that we are not shopping him, because we’re very comfortable having him in a White Sox uniform, knowing what he’s capable of doing. Now if it makes sense for both parties to work out a deal, then so be it. But we’re planning on him being in uniform for us next year,” Do teams generally announce that they intend to trade a player at all costs? I don't seem to remember that ever really happening. Should Chris Getz release his call logs to the press? What level of factual information do you think you're due? And are you saying that the White Sox shouldn't then trade Robert if they get their socks knocked off by a return offer? If you know something that we don't, it would be nice if you told us.

MLB off-seasons have become frustrating in how they play out. Are you suggesting the the White Sox declare that they will not trade Robert under any circumstances? Or do you think they should just take the best offer right now because ChiSoxFanMike is cranky?

The White Sox have been pretty clear that they're not shopping Robert, but they'll listen. Are the White Sox supposed to declare that they will never, never, never trade Robert now that they have picked up his option, even if somebody waves a Crochet-like return in front of them? Nov 4: “Obviously with the hamstring injury toward the end of the year, he missed some time,” Getz said. “But prior to that, with the adjustments he made going into the second half, that gave us confidence that this is someone we want to have in our lineup on a regular basis. We just need to find a way to get a productive six months of the season, and a lot of that is keeping him on the field.” “We have a plan with performance,” Venable said. “We had it going into last year, we have it every year with Luis, understanding the risk [of] injury and really have a mindful plan with all of our players. Certainly, a heightened awareness of Luis and his injury history. We'll roll out a similar plan this year and make sure we're doing everything to put him in the best spot to be healthy and be productive.” White Sox pick up 'game changer' Robert's $20M option for '26 Nov 20: “It’s very truthful that we are not shopping him, because we’re very comfortable having him in a White Sox uniform, knowing what he’s capable of doing. Now if it makes sense for both parties to work out a deal, then so be it. But we’re planning on him being in uniform for us next year,” Getz said to Merkin. Chicago White Sox aren’t ‘shopping’ their All-Star outfielder

Well, my thought (which somehow, turns into unconditional Getz love to the detractors) is that the asking price on Robert will be higher while there isn't a clear replacement on the team or in the system. Maybe if Baldwin or Pereira look competent in backup roles, the asking price on Robert drops in July.

He threw 170 in 2024. I don't think they'd be signing him as anything but an upside play. They'll probably grab up another couple of this type.

They've pretty much stated their preference. One of the implied rigors of being paid $20M a year to play baseball is that the player may have to endure trade rumors. I trust that Getz is keeping Robert apprised of the market and the team's goals.