WestEddy

Okay, a guy like Billy Hamilton HAD value.

So there's really no reason to compare Jones to Canario. Jones can back up CF in the bigs for a week, and they see if they can work on his chase rates in AAA. Canario's a different player who is out of options, and looks like a AAAA player, no matter how much MLBTR wants to hype him as a waiver wire steal. Billy Hamilton has value.

He's faster, a very good defender and has an option. If Canario had any options left, he'd probably be on the Cubs' AAA team. Jones is CF depth. All Getz did there was upgrade the "next man up" in AAA from Fletcher, who's limited in CF and hasn't hit, to Jones, who has elite speed, and can cover CF.

Here are a few things I hold to be true: 1) Getz did not see DeLoach, Fletcher or Colas as long-term solutions, anymore. Proof? He DFAed all three off the 40-man roster at the risk of losing them to make room for other players. 2) While the Sox do have upper level OF "depth", the prospects they might consider important are still a few levels away. Proof? DeLoach, Colas, Cal Mitchell, Greg Jones and Corey Julks are the OFers at AAA. 3) The Sox entered the off-season with a plan to form a platoon in RF, with a capable veteran backing up CF. Proof? They signed Slater and Tauchman early to major league deals. They also signed Michael A. Taylor to a major league deal. 4) The Sox didn't have to guarantee Slater playing time. They guaranteed him a full year's salary once he made the opening day roster. The buzz was that Fuller worked with him last year and thought he could be "fixed". Why do you think they should shelve that just to bring some non-prospect aboard? Notice that for as great as you're pumping Canario up to be right now, he was never in 7 years of minor league baseball ranked as high a prospect as Oscar Colas or even Greg Jones was. I'm not sure why you're getting salty about "speculation", which is the only thing that is driving the conversation that Canario is a credible OF option that won't be OPSing .550 after 6 weeks. You saw the many online scouting reports on Canario that show him to be an exploitable hitter. The fact they didn't jump on him in spring training when they could just DFA Colas and observe him for 6 weeks tells me they didn't see him as a viable option to spend time and resources on.

Getz would have no reason to make promises to guys playing for other teams. They are playing on the Sox.

FanGraphs reviewed Eguy Rosaria last year: San Diego Padres Top 31 Prospects | FanGraphs Baseball 11. Eguy Rosario, 3B Signed: July 2nd Period, 2015 from Dominican Republic (SDP) Age 24.1 Height 5′ 7″ Weight 175 Bat / Thr R / R FV 40 Tool Grades (Present/Future) Hit Raw Power Game Power Run Fielding Throw 30/35 50/50 45/50 40/40 55/55 60 Rosario was part of San Diego’s 2015 international class, which also included Emmanuel Clase and Andrés Muñoz. He was barely old enough to sign in 2015; had he been born a few days later he would have had to have waited until the following July. The Padres pushed him pretty quickly and he got his first taste of Double-A at age 18. He made his big league debut in 2022, then suffered a broken ankle playing winter ball in early 2023. He was still able to play a little bit in the big leagues later that year but not enough to lose rookie status. Injuries pressed him into action in 2024 and Rosario graduates as chase-prone, power-hitting third baseman. Rosario’s defense at third is highly entertaining. He loves to show off his arm and will wait an extra beat to let the ball go so he can throw it over there hard. He has mostly played third base of late. Eguy also loves to swing. He’s chase prone and dying to do damage to his pull side. When he leans on one, it can go a long way, but all the chase has caused a ton of strikeouts during his big league stints. Rosario is still very young and could probably play third base every day for a handful of big league teams. Ideally he’ll reintroduce another position or two to his toolbelt as a way of staying on a good roster.

Jankowski's gone as soon as Tauchman's ready in a week or so. I wouldn't trade for or claim Canario for a 3 week audition. Dude needs runway. I haven't heard of Canario's defense being on the level of Michael A. Taylor, so Slater is really the only player occupying the spot Canario would take. I know it's a meme, but Slater was the guy they targeted, either as a hedge against a Robert trade, or 2022-2023 Slater being a guy they could trade for a dude. I wouldn't expect them to launch the first player they targeted this off-season after 3 weeks. Just as we talk about Martin Perez, Bryce Wilson and others, they probably lured Slater with a promise of playing time, and a good couple month shot at a job. On a tangent, thinking about how they treated Pillar last year, and how he was so gob-smacked by the reworking of his contract, the Sox had to be feeling a money bite from their TV deals going away.

No. He has less than 3 years' service time, and this was his first outright off the roster.

If Fletcher makes it through waivers and he's assigned to Charlotte, that makes Colas 4th man up on the depth chart. I just get the sense that the dude's headstrong and there's no way forward.

So much for colonoscopy dude's sources.

They certainly could have traded cash or a rookie level pitcher for him then. I think the point of waivers is to put teams on notice, collect offers, then trade him to the team with the best offer. Short of that, release him to the top claiming club, or pull him back from waivers.

I would not find it questionable and disappointing if Canario isn't on our team in a week. I'd imagine that the priorities in the first months of the season are: 1) Get Vargas, Sosa and Lee PAs and innings. You need to see if they're major leaguers going forward. 2) Put your four young starting pitchers (and inexperienced bullpen) in the best position to succeed. A big step towards that goal is making sure you have better fielders at every possible position. 3) Keep Robert, Benintendi and Vaughn fresh and healthy by rotating them through the DH slot. If they produce, you can trade them. 4) Give Will Venable a team that he can actually "manage" and try to win games with. Venable is also being evaluated as a part of the equation going forward. Why give him a s%*#-show to juggle in his first year? One obstacle to all those is parking a guy in LF or DH and eliminating the rotation Venable has planned for the position. The main problem I have with the constant stoking of the "Getz is clueless" narrative is that he actually put this roster together with a plan and it would be silly to jettison that plan one game into the season to take a flier on a guy who hasn't collected the most glowing scouting reports. Cutting Jankowski, Maton, Slater, Taylor, Vaughn, Rojas all become flippant options if we just disregard the fact that they actually have to play the games, don't want to exceed the worst loss record again, and want to develop a positive clubhouse environment going forward. Canario is an interesting player. We could have easily cut Colas and grabbed this guy up when the Cubs DFAed him, and then took a good, long look at him. Either their own scouts said the same thing many of the more credible reports we have access to said, or they just didn't know enough about him then. I don't think anything's changed in the last 6 weeks.

That's a big reason I don't think anybody should have been expecting any kind of return on Kopech. The dude literally only put his coaches' suggestions into practice the week before he was traded.

nope.

Yeah, he made the plays hit to him. There was a game in ST where he looked absolutely terrible. Maybe he had bad clams that morning.

Vargas 2-4 w/2 ribs. That Fedde trade's looking better by the day.

14 players on this opening day roster have less than 2 years' service time. Do players only develop when their team loses?

Paul DeJong, 4 PAs, 4 Ks.

You've got to beat those teams, also.

There's a quality start. Burke looks real.

Colas isn't a major league outfielder. I would have ridden with Fletcher over Janky.

Probably the two easiest to sneak through waivers today.

just delete this.

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