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LMAO @ Aly claiming she never saw control for him over 55 anywhere and fangraphs (presumably the first place one would look) has it at 70. I'm not a fan of Thorpe as the headliner or this trade overall, but she is either arguing in outright bad faith, or is trying to be the female Ron.

Did the FO like funnel money to them or something?

If they were really focused on pitching they should have come away with Snelling. The opposing GM is at extreme risk of being fired and good SP thats cost controlled is at a premium. Getz got the ball first and goal at the 5 and ended up making a 45 yard field goal after a couple dumb calls and a holding penalty.

Of all the return, Zavala is the most promising. Still disappointed/pissed at the overall return.

Yeah I fully expect TJS shortly and Preller laughing at us. Again.

Thanks, Chris.

This is fair. C or C-. I'm not impressed by Getz work and I have no clue why Harold is constantly praising him.

Nah. This is on balance relatively weak. Snelling should be the headliner. Zavala is interesting and very advanced for age. Wish he had more power projection. I wouldn't say Preller destroyed Getz, but he did, at a minimum, give him a bad cold. Either way, I think @Balta1701 and @baseball_gal_aly are basically right on balance. Sad but true.

It appears you and Aly had the better of the argument. Congrats.

Ehh...

Still waiting to be impressed...

Still ain't steep. Waiting for Snelling or savagery...Head ain't savagery.

Then Getz got destroyed. I'm starting to fume....

If Thorpe is the headliner and there's no other Top 100s....Balta and Aly are correct.

Waiting for the headliner.... Thorpe better not be it

Need Snelling as the headliner. Thorpe is not a headliner. That's not steep at all Aly might still be right.

Snelling and Thorpe are 44m SV combined. Not saying they are or are not headliners but if Getz wants a SP heavy deal those would make sense..

Hopefully multiple notable prospects is not code for "quantity deal" I need savages!

Snelling plus volume is fine I guess. Thorpe plus volume is not.

Bro.....Getz incorporated surge pricing into his demand. Therefore...return should be pretty good

Come on Snelling....

Snelling has to be the headliner

I dont think there's any dispute that there's a market. The question is, is the market in the low 40m SV range, or does the pitching premium and/or Cole situation push it into the 50s. We saw about a 10% premium with the Burnes situation (33m value...they paid 36m). Similar premium would make this trade be around 46m...perhaps a bit more if it's NYY.

Yep...Getz is insisting on Jones as the main piece per Bob and ofcourse there will be secondary pieces. If they are willing to eventually (like in 2 weeks) give in on Jones, I'll take Warren instead of Hampton if it would make Cashman feel better. Either way, it's Jones+.

An appointment with Dr. Neal El Attrache says that they are.