waltwilliams

The Cubs have had two losing seasons in the past 10 years, and have been to the postseason in five of those years, winning it all in 2016. I wish the Sox had that kind of success.

One positive note -- most of the modern era teams on this list would turn it around in a 10-year period. The Mets would make it to the World Series (and win it) within four years of their 1965 100 loss season. The Blue Jays would become a perennial AL East power by 1983, eventually winning the WS in 1992 and 1993. And the Dayton Moore Royals would become make it to two consecutive World Series eight years after their 2006 100 loss season. Even the 50s Pirates would turn it around (under Branch Rickey), making it to the WS in 1960.

Once again, the White Sox are contending with history, in a negative way. As we all know, there's a good chance that they'll lose 100 games for the third season in a row. This would tie them with six other teams in AL history who lost 100 games three seasons in a row. Only the expansion Washington Senators lost 100 games four seasons in a row in the AL. Here's the notorious consecutive 100-loss seasons in both the AL and NL: AL 4 Washington Senators 1961-64 3 St.Louis Browns 1910-12 3 Philadelphia A's 1919-21 3 Boston Red Sox 1925-27 3 Toronto Blue Jays 1977-79 3 Kansas City Royals 2004-06 3 Houston Astros 2011-13 NL 5 Philadelpha Phillies 1938-42 4 Boston Braves 1909-12 4 New York Mets 1962-65 3 Boston Braves 1922-24 3 Pittsburgh Pirates 1952-54 The Sox need at least a 31-34 record in the second half of the season to avoid being on this embarrassing list. Can they do it? Time will tell.

As the story states, CPD "almost completely dispelled" the idea that the shots came from outside.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/06/20/jerry-reinsdorf-chicago-white-sox-deposed/ I'm sure he'll continue to blame the neighborhood and say that the shots were fired outside the stadium.

Totally agree with this. And regarding their present location, remember that the state of Illinois and the White Sox completely leveled an entire neighborhood (South Armour Square) to build current Rate Field in 1989-91, displacing hundreds of people/businesses. There is absolutely no reason that a deep-pocketed developer couldn't build an entire new community on the site of Old Comiskey and on the parking lots just behind it (adjacent to Armour Park) to create the Ballpark Village/Neighborhood that they need/desire. And you'd still have the parking to the west and south of the park, which has traditionally been the tailgaters spot. Hell, they could tear down the Tinkertoy signage in the bleachers, and put a couple of hotels in that space behind the back of the stadium (near Wentworth) to create an effect of buildings in the background, a la Wrigley. This is the great thing about 35th and Shields -- in addition to the history (no MLB team has played longer at the same location), it's a blank slate with regards to development. And the transportation/infrastructure is already there.

The neighborhood around Sox Park is definitely not unremarkable. Bridgeport on one side and Bronzeville on the other have seen a tremendous renaissance over the past 10 years. And the neighborhood that Sox Park is actually in -- Armour Square -- is also home to one of the city's most notable tourist areas, Chinatown. It is, in fact, a much more vibrant area than the desolate area of the South Loop where the 78 is. The issue has always been that the White Sox have tried to ignore the neighborhood, with the sea of parking lost and insistence on having visitors only pay for what's inside the stadium.

Eder's actually back in the majors with the Angels: https://www.si.com/mlb/angels/angels-news/two-surprise-angels-pitchers-have-lockers-in-clubhouse He's pitched a couple of scoreless innings for them in long relief: https://www.milb.com/player/jake-eder-671109.

Jake Burger sent to Triple A by the Rangers -- hitting .190 with three homers: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/44958204/reports-rangers-demoting-slugger-jake-burger-triple-a

They are outstanding ... I have Sirius and listen to all the broadcasts and they have to be in the top 5 radio teams in the country.

I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I think Schiffren's been decent this year. He's a been a straightforward broadcaster -- his style kind of reminds me of Chip Caray. As good as Benetti could be, his forced humor really got on my nerves. And Schriffren, to his credit, doesn't do that kind of stuff.

That's right. I'm thinking of guys they kept, though

Kenny Williams was actually really good in finding diamond-in-the-rough types: Jose Valentin, Juan Uribe, Carlos Quentin come to mind.

Fun fact: Tim Anderson was the last home-grown (drafted and developed) Sox position player to make the All-Star team in 2021 and 2022. The last home-grown position player to make the All-Star team before TA was Joe Crede in 2008! And he was drafted almost 30 years ago ('96)

Robert is still a trade asset. He's running very well, probably better than he has in at least a year. The bat's not there right now, but despite what a lot of posters believe on this site, he's not a malingerer. He IS undisciplined at the plate, though. And I'm sure he's demoralized by being on this historically bad team. He desperately needs new surroundings.

Doesn't he still have three minor league options left? I think he does. But the Sox would never do that to him - they wouldn't want to hurt his feelings.

I live in the South Loop and that 78 location at Roosevelt and Clark is remote, even for people who live in the neighborhood. You must have been quite the adventurer to literally walk a mile from the financial district to this weed-strewn empty lot for lunch breaks. I agree with the other posters here -- despite the skyline views, this location is a pipe-dream for a new stadium. There's a reason why it has never been developed -- even before you get into the costs of a new stadium, just making it commuter friendly would take billions.

He was by far the best-looking player on that sorry squad in September. I would have to think he'll get a shot in spring training

What examples do you have of Colas' "questionable character". I know he complained about not being brought up, but is that really "questionable"?

Kevin Warren is the key driver of keeping the Bears on the lakefront. I think the McCaskeys and Ted Phillips were perfectly fine with the Arlington Heights location, which at the end of the day, makes more sense for the Bears than staying downtown.

Not sure why Citi Field is a poor example. For the past 20 years of existence (and for adjacent Shea Stadium's entire life going back to the 60s) it was surrounded by auto-body shops and borderline poverty. But that didn't keep Mets fans away in the past. Good on Steve Cohen for being a responsible owner and attempting to create his own village by his existing stadium -- that's what JR or a new Sox owner should be doing, looking for ways to develop around Sox Park. As for Pittsburgh and Cincinnatti, these two franchises are routinely at the bottom-third of MLB attendance, despite their relatively new ballparks and whatever attractions they may have on the outside. Unless you're the Cubs or Red Sox, if you don't have a good team, chances are you won't draw, regardless of where you play,

I've been to Yankee Stadium (the old one) and Dodger Stadium a few times. There is probably less to do outside those ballparks than there is at Sox Park. (Yankee Stadium has a dive bar named Stan's nearby, but not much else). And yet, these two teams are routinely one and two in attendance. It's not because they have cool places outside the ballpark -- it's because of the winning traditions that both teams have. Same thing with Citi Field -- it looks like a third world country outside that stadium. But the Mets routinely draw between 2.5 million and 3 million.

Yeah, I get the frustration with management, but that was kind of embarrassing. A low point for us as a fanbase, to be honest

Garrett told Merkin that he didn't appreciate the fans cheering on the Angels and cheering for the Sox to lose at home this week.