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I don't think there's much of a chance that Bauer is going to end up here and I really want to aim a lot higher than Joc but I'm definitely okay with Joc is our right fielder if we actually manage to land Bauer. But if Trevor doesn't end up here amd Joc ends up being our right fielder I would say that would likely be pretty indicative of a failure of an offseason.

It really astounds me how so many people here want stars yet don't want to ever overpay or give a year or 2 more than projected usefulness. That's just his free agency is and has been for quite a while now. You have to take these risks sometimes otherwise you end up being a team like... the White Sox. Yuck.

Unacceptable is an MO for this organization.

Absolutely disgusting. And sadly, this is all par for the fucking course.

This feels like the only true White Sox forum on the whole damn internet. Love you guys.

Colome made us nervous quite a bit but always got the job done. No reason not to seek him for one more year. Bummer will be there for whatever role we will need him for.

Yeah, I'm open to a lot of proposals being thrown around here but we are looking for more than just one quality starter and giving up more than one of Dunning, Crochet and Cease might prove too costly. I would be open to trading Vaughn but very hesitantly. We would have a future 1B/DH problem really soon.

Again, not sure why so much hyperbole with Ozuna's defense lately. Also, virtually all contracts are an overpay these days. I'd rather overpay for a really solid OF than pay peanuts for a bad/mediocre one. That's the way this team has operated for years and it really needs to change.

I have never understood the mentality that Ozuna is a "butcher." On top of that, the offensive production we would get from those guys would be well worth it. I think if you look at the season Ozuna just had and don't want that guy on your team you are over analyzing just a tad. Why is Springer a risk?

Springer, Brantley, Ozuna for starters. Sorry you're not keen on an idea most of this board is behind. We're past the "cheating" part of this and I really don't want to have to go over the obvious reasons you should be overlooking that AGAIN because it's been done to death but either way for you to act like there aren't any options is ignorant. There are some really prime RF options available this offseason. Joc would be a mere consolation prize.

No reason for this to be a serious question.

Dude was a legend. His presence on this forum was similar to what Trump's 4 years were in the pantheon of Presidencies.

This should be the end of the discussion.

Obviously WAR is important but simply using WAR as the lone foundation of so many arguments against Jose as if it is the only stat that matters is essentially lying with statistics. He's also played more than *2* seasons. There's a reason you have a really bad rep on this issue.

You pretty much always WERE wrong about him.

I'm not really worried about that, but doesn't that also enforce the possibility that we get less value for him anyway?

The obsession with trading Madrigal (usually for players with question marks) on this board is so irritating. No one apparently wants Brantley or various other players due to "injury concerns" yet we cant wait to offer up a young, cheap, controlled potential all star who just hit .340 in his rookie season AND MORE for a definitely injury prone pitcher. I want a star SP too, guys. But trading Nick is not the answer.

This thread title literally goes against logic 101.

I predict no major FAs will sign here. We'll probably get Pederson and maybe another bargain bin 1 year vet ala Gio Gonzalez again. I honestly believe last year was a mirage with Grandal and a near miss with Wheeler. The events with Jerry and TLR will likely play a small role in this, IMO. Probably Covid, too.

I love when people convince themselves that other people don't care about legit issues to make them feel better about their own apathy. One of the worst posts I've ever seen.

That's part of why I asked. But you really think he's worth all that?

Cease still has a lot of upside and potentially can be much better than Marquez. So let's trade him AND a potential All Star 2B (who just hit .340 in his rookie season) AND at least one of our top prospects as well, plus one more guy. LOL no.

Lol why. Why essentially trade the farm for 1 pitcher who is really not even that great.

Actually that was obviously implied with my very first post.

Again, none if this even needs to be said because it's just not a sensible trade for us. So if that is what we would have to give up and we don't, good. Would be glad to just move on.