EloyJenkins

So if Sox sign Ryu or Keuchel in THIS week...can this thread at least be locked?

Hard LOCK on this. Wheeler's wife chose location and the stupid money that went to Cole and Strasburg was out of sanities reach. They still have 2+ months to get pitching and the position players have a chance to be an elite group. I get it, people are impatient, but this thought is just silly.

Really solid write up.

After sleeping the trade off...this is where I am at. In a platoon situation...this is a great use of funds and current talent. Engel can spell Eloy in the field as well and ultimately Leury becomes the super utility guy. Outside of spending a bunch on Castellanos, this COULD work. But, they MUST sign one of RYU, Bum or Keuchel if this is the path they chose, plus another pitching move also. This trade does remind me a bit of Podsednik though...giving a possibly talented outfielder a real chance to reach a better potential.

Scott Boras is having sex with a 10 this week. Dude has nuts the size of Texas. He literally makes the hall of fame off this winter alone. Respect his binders.

What if he realizes his potential this year? Haha, jk what a dumb move.

I want nothing to do with a Tampa trade. They almost always win their returns. Gallen is the only guy that makes sense outside of Snell to me. And I think Sox would be better off pairing with Dbacks

I actually like that he may only pitch 175 innings. Keep his arm fresh for late season and Rodon, Kopech and maybe even Dunning will be fighting for starts already.

ah, that makes much more sense. and agreed.

What? They traded aggressively and have rebuilt in 3 seasons. How is that too long?

yep. To think for two guys he will get over 540 million is just absurd. Those binders must have been HUGE!

I'm not mad at this at all. Sox should not have paid that much. Really makes Wheeler a bargain though. And now controllable starters will ask for Robert or Madrigal at a minimum

I am guessing our big trade proposals for controllable starters would be something like these two options: A: Madrigal or Vaughn + Stievers + Dunning B: Lopez + Collins + Basabe ++ Option A gets you a #2 with Ace potential, option B is probably a #3 that could peak at #2. Who would take those and what would they give up?

It's about to be a CRAZY week at winter meetings. Every major FA may be signed

They erred on the side of caution because last year

Ozuna and Ryu is best scenario on current market because it still allows for a wood type signing and a reliever

When Obama is part of the new ownership group In three years will people be "thanks Obama!" When they miss out on high profile FAs?

Someone already updated Wikipedia with him on the Sox. People are nuts.

Best case really is Yankees sign Cole and Dodgers resign Ryu. That would leave Sox vs Angels as mains for Strasburg. I know it's a pipedream, but those odds are much better than with yankess and dodgers involved

Gallen would be a game Changing Pickup. It only happens though if Moncada moves to second...not sure I love that. Unless savings from getting Zac allows for a Rendon signing. But that is crazy talk

Pirates officially are open to Marte. This is ideal. What's it take? Collins and Basabe and???

I think Dunning has a stellar year. He really showed some flashes before the TJ. I think he becomes a number 3 starter QUICKLY. I honestly think Kopech is going to be our Jose Contreras. He is going to dominate some games and totally crap himself others...but have an absolute 1.5 season peak where he is a top 3 MLB pitcher. I don't expect him to really have a long fruitful career, but I see in 2022 or 23 him going on an unbelievable run. Cease is the biggest conundrum. He has #2 potential, but not sure if he ever is more than a #4. If you sign Strasburg or Ryu even...it doesn't matter...he will be the #4 the next several seasons anyway. Rodon is done. If he shows any type of improvement he is getting traded.

I say we don't have a chance in hell on Cole. Why not Strasburg? The White Sox were willing to offer 24/mil a year for Wheeler. Strasburg will command a 5 or 6 year deal and realistically a 31-33 mil AAV. How is that out of their realm since his fWAR alone more than makes up that difference in Salary from Wheeler and then some. He is honestly the perfect fit for the team and window of contention. Obviously bidding against the Nationals and Yankees will be difficult, but it's time to step up and become elite with one Marquee FA.

this move would scream Kenny Williams trying to outthink himself. Hard pass unless it's DH only.

Fuck this thread and anyone who takes it seriously