EloyJenkins

What? They traded aggressively and have rebuilt in 3 seasons. How is that too long?

yep. To think for two guys he will get over 540 million is just absurd. Those binders must have been HUGE!

I'm not mad at this at all. Sox should not have paid that much. Really makes Wheeler a bargain though. And now controllable starters will ask for Robert or Madrigal at a minimum

I am guessing our big trade proposals for controllable starters would be something like these two options: A: Madrigal or Vaughn + Stievers + Dunning B: Lopez + Collins + Basabe ++ Option A gets you a #2 with Ace potential, option B is probably a #3 that could peak at #2. Who would take those and what would they give up?

It's about to be a CRAZY week at winter meetings. Every major FA may be signed

They erred on the side of caution because last year

Ozuna and Ryu is best scenario on current market because it still allows for a wood type signing and a reliever

When Obama is part of the new ownership group In three years will people be "thanks Obama!" When they miss out on high profile FAs?

Someone already updated Wikipedia with him on the Sox. People are nuts.

Best case really is Yankees sign Cole and Dodgers resign Ryu. That would leave Sox vs Angels as mains for Strasburg. I know it's a pipedream, but those odds are much better than with yankess and dodgers involved

Gallen would be a game Changing Pickup. It only happens though if Moncada moves to second...not sure I love that. Unless savings from getting Zac allows for a Rendon signing. But that is crazy talk

Pirates officially are open to Marte. This is ideal. What's it take? Collins and Basabe and???

I think Dunning has a stellar year. He really showed some flashes before the TJ. I think he becomes a number 3 starter QUICKLY. I honestly think Kopech is going to be our Jose Contreras. He is going to dominate some games and totally crap himself others...but have an absolute 1.5 season peak where he is a top 3 MLB pitcher. I don't expect him to really have a long fruitful career, but I see in 2022 or 23 him going on an unbelievable run. Cease is the biggest conundrum. He has #2 potential, but not sure if he ever is more than a #4. If you sign Strasburg or Ryu even...it doesn't matter...he will be the #4 the next several seasons anyway. Rodon is done. If he shows any type of improvement he is getting traded.

I say we don't have a chance in hell on Cole. Why not Strasburg? The White Sox were willing to offer 24/mil a year for Wheeler. Strasburg will command a 5 or 6 year deal and realistically a 31-33 mil AAV. How is that out of their realm since his fWAR alone more than makes up that difference in Salary from Wheeler and then some. He is honestly the perfect fit for the team and window of contention. Obviously bidding against the Nationals and Yankees will be difficult, but it's time to step up and become elite with one Marquee FA.

this move would scream Kenny Williams trying to outthink himself. Hard pass unless it's DH only.

Fuck this thread and anyone who takes it seriously

They are doing the rounds with Cole and Strasburg. Based on Price may push them to him. But they will be a big threat on Strasburg for sure.

Strasburg. Should have been #1 priority all offseason and now...He HAS to be. Best case scenario is that MadBum signs with the Twins or Angels and that leaves Stras and Cole for Sox and Yankees respectively.

Sox bid the most money and didn't get him. Move on. Strasburg is better and they have ZERO reason not to get into a high bid with him. Phillies are out on him...so its Nationals/Yankees/Angels as really the only true contenders and one drops out that signs Cole.

Honestly for me best case scenario is that Phillies offered 6 years and Hahn immediately put in an aggressive 5 year offer for Stras. If you overpay, overpay for the guy who had the historic playoffs...

I really love an Eloy, Robert and Joc outfield for 2020...and depending on the market try and work out a 2 year extension with Joc this spring. See how well he hits and then if Adolfo or Basabe are ready by End of 2020 you can baby step them into the RF role and you have Joc play RF, DH and spell Eloy in LF in 21,22. Power for days in the lineup and having Joc, Abreu and Grandal as your carousel of DH guys for contention years is pretty choice.

No way they would bother offering a short term to Cole. Boras wouldnt even answer the phone unless they came with at least a 225+ offer

If it wasn't for a miracle rain delay that team would be the most underwhelming 5 year run of any contender in recent history. They had prospects, the GM and spent the money...and in short order they will be back to the lovable losers while the White Sox make all the headlines. I'm happy their die-hard fans got to see a championship, but talk about an ideal scenario for beaten down Southside fans. The cockiness and annoyance of Cubs fans hit such an obnoxious level that it's just desserts to see them fall apart just as quickly. Dynasty Broken.

4/74 will only happen if he has a bad medical report circulating. He is getting 95-105 easily and potentially more as you said. SFG make no sense though since they really are not trending upward at all.

If I remember right hawk said that several games against the Mariners...