EloyJenkins

That meant 300 million minimum. Lozano was waiting for another team no matter what.

What Is interesting to me the most at this point now is the Phillies plan. Will they put a Machado offer in at all? Because if they don't, and it's Sox vs Padres...Padres will be the team needing a decently higher bid. Taxes are much higher, he'd be further from Miami and he said he didn't enjoy the west coast. Plus his buds being on Sox is a plus. If Philly isn't bidding to stay on Harper we still have a great chance....I put Padres at 8/270 tops. We beat that.

yeah. That is why I think this is Lozano trying to push the last offer out of Philly and Chicago. It actually would be good if Padres put in an offer as well. Will really move the urgency of this.

But he was never available for 200. It has always been 250+ and as many of us here have said 8/280ish is most likely.

This article sounds like an Agent asking for a favor to try and kick up one last offer. This nugget is hilarious... The Padres became players in the pursuit of Machado a week ago when reports surfaced of a price that was far lower than expected. Right....they just decided to get involved after hearing they might be able to get him for still at least $28-30 AAV a season. Not likely.

I have been checking in on Manny Machado too....every 10 minutes on this site. Hasn't signed yet. Won't be with the Braves.

It would definitely be more contact than a months worth of at bats...

It is very easy to schedule a physical for Friday morning and plan on hoping that they can announce this evening. If it doesn't work out and has to drag through the weekend, Management can just be giddy in the direction the club is heading and fill diehards with hope. That being said...I doubt it goes down without several leaks first. So...leaks, where are you?

People starved for a signing that are putting up ridiculous ideas is not expecting...I don't expect any of this to happen...but it makes me happy to daydream it.

Not to beat a dead horse, but I did the math based on WaR yesterday and shared: Manny over Yolmer 5.0 vs 1.4 = +3.6 wins expected 28 million per salary Pederson over Engel 3.3 vs .1 = +3.2 wins expected 5 million per salary Keuchel over Giolito 3.1 vs .2 = +2.9 wins expected 18 million per salary Total WaR for additions compared to current roster projections = +9.7 wins for 51-55 million increase in payroll. This would put us roughly at 80 win projection for 2019. Add in a few lucky increases to developing talent and we could knock on the 82-83 win total. Not enough to win the division or a wild card, but definitely enough to keep the team interest high, increase attendance and start to build a positive team momentum to carry into 2020.

Did he wink every time he said it?

Wilpon is saying Mets are OUT of Bryce and Manny for sure. Interesting if true. Big money teams are shrinking by the hour...

After the two are announced...Keuchel zip lines from the rafters with a steel chair and takes em out yelling pitching wins championships!!!

If they do somehow announce Manny and Bryce NWO style, my heart may explode....and I will surely jizz my pants.

yeah, Do Marlins have any SP we would be interested in?

Honestly...Pollack/Realmuto is > Harper. That puts them over the top in the NL if pitching holds up. Bravo on their plan to get them to yet another WS. And imagine how Livid Boras is right now that he basically has ZERO big team leverage now. Mystery teams about to flood the twitterverse.

if pollock only got a 12m AAV...Manny at 28m and Harper at 30m is really looking possible. Wow.

hence the complaints.

Yes. Yes it does. If the nationals are out on him too...the dream of getting both is actually in reach...albeit still almost impossible. Huge news. And Pederson probably coming our way today also.

saw this was bumped. Here is the fangraphs best available list. It is a bummer on how little impact remains available outside of Keuchel.

It really is Keuchel or bust for SP impact. Anderson may be worth it on a 1 year flier...but not sure what that accomplishes.

Mlbtraderumors has a really nice breakdown of trying to figure out these "mystery teams". Based on all this, outside of the Mets or Padres going extremely bold....I just don't see any of them approaching or topping 250 total. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/01/trying-to-identify-mystery-teams-for-manny-machado.html

Based on all the "info" out there...Sox probably have a verbal of 8/250 with them...and none of the mystery teams have topped that. Addition of more and more mystery teams will intensify until either Sox verbal becomes actual at 8/250 or Phillies flinch and offer more thinking Bryce is out of their grasp. hence the slow news cycles because not many teams can do 8/250 with tax issues or teams that are in crappy cities that Manny's wife will not enjoy. My take, anyways...

Okay, so I went and did some rough math work on the last idea and adding the 3 will net us: Manny over Yolmer 5.0 vs 1.4 = +3.6 wins expected 28 million per salary Pederson over Engel 3.3 vs .1 = +3.2 wins expected 5 million per salary Keuchel over Giolito 3.1 vs .2 = +2.9 wins expected 18 million per salary Total WaR for additions compared to current roster projections = +9.7 wins for 51-55 million increase in payroll. This would put us roughly at 80 win projection for 2019. Add in a few lucky increases to developing talent and we could knock on the 82-83 win total. Not enough to win the division or a wild card, but definitely enough to keep the team interest high, increase attendance and start to build a positive team momentum to carry into 2020 when the calvary of pitching help and potentially the 5+ win additions of Madrigal and Robert/Outfield Prospect arrive with money to still add a key free agent that tips the scales.

Consistent with what we all speculated. The fact that the braves are out helps...and if the cost is right our team becomes very respectable lineup wise with this and Manny. Unfortunately 1-2 year SP fliers are disappearing leaving us with Gio or Keuchel as the only options now if they want to make 2019 actually "competitive". I wonder what signing Manny, trading for Pederson and signing Dallas would do to the expected win rate...off to look at projections.