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All I can do is laugh at the absurdity of your posts about Grandal pal. Have a good one.

Yes, surely those 21 AB's in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th spot in the lineup are VERY telling.

Why would a guy batting at the top of a lineup accumulate walks in front of Leury Garcia? When your offense lacks power and talent, as the Sox does now, I would think a 124 wRC+ player would be a pretty valuable piece to have. So you'll defer to the FO who gave Yaz the biggest contract per year in their franchises history. Gotcha, glad we could agree!

Weird anti-Grandal vibes here that are pretty funny. You can't hit a guy with a 385 OBP at the top of the order. Odd stuff all around. So Giolito is such a pussy he can't tell Grandal what he wants to throw? Sad!

This is interesting; when looking at 2019 the r value is lower than the .47 value they show for 2018 which isn't THAT big. Good read in general, and I'll stand partly corrected but still maintain it's not substantial - we're talking a few points, not 20-30. I also wish the shift was accounted for here in their numbers as 5 of the guys on that top list are shifted against.

Leury Garcia has atrocious numbers vs righties WITH a .344 BABIP. Vaughn has bad numbers vs righties with a BABIP 60-70 points (236) under where it should sit. Vaughn is the obvious choice in LF over Leury Garcia. Edit: I'm not ready to draw conclusions on Vaughn vs righties after 124 AB's. I KNOW Leury sucks vs righties based on his entire career. Vaughn has been clutch and shown flashes, Leury just gives me flashes of pain.

jaja, obviously would want to see a win, but like a car wreck, I can't look away from the lunacy after a singular loss in a long baseball season.

Leury is significantly worse than Vaughn offensively. The White Sox have a power issue, Leury has a .065 ISO. Vaughns ISO is 172. Vaughns offensive numbers even with struggles against righties are significantly better than Leury.

This is not true. There's no correlation between sprint speed and xwOBA variance. For example, Shohei and Acuna have underperformed their xwOBA and Yordan Alvarez and Yuli Gurriell have over performed there's. This year, the change in the baseball has effected the link between xwOBA and wOBA though - as the r value is lower than years past but it may normalize as the weather warms and offense returns to normal a bit. Time will tell. Edit: I stand corrected slightly, thanks Dominkk. My apologies.

I kind of want to see it happen just to witness the "Rebuild is a failure" threads because of one losing streak which happens to every single team in baseball at some point. Maybe even a new poster named Ragggeh Raggeh will join to yell I told you so.

Somehow in your mind the win-now mode means bringing up a guy who has played 34 professional games in 4 years and putting him in the OF - when he's never played the OF in his entire life, and had two Achilles tears. Amazing stuff all around. The Sox lost one series. They'll lose more. Hope we don't have to deal with these absurd overreactions after everyone. The Sox need to go get an outfielder, not replace Andrew Vaughn with Jake Burger and play Leury Garcia more.

You'd give Burger his shot... in LF? ? Leury Garcia has an xwOBA of .266, Vaughns is .337. But you'd play Leury. Got it.

Oh, you're right. You said you wanted to play Leury Garcia and his 77 wRC+ over him. Even better. Two gun said he wanted to send him down and you played tummy sticks with that idea.

Vaughns xwOBA is 337, which would put him right around a 108-112 wRC+, but yes... please lets send him down and call up Blake Rutherford or something. White Sox mania, 2021! The rational thinkers like Cali and two-guns are just speaking facts while the rest of us are naive to the idea of sending down your only healthy outfielder and replacing him with a guy who won't hit lefties or righties. Truly 4D TLR level chess going on here. The White Sox just called up Luis Gonzalez lol with their latest OF injury and now they should send down Vaughn so they can call up another subpar AAA player. Genius!

Again, it is the sum of ones outputs that should be evaluated. The Sox have no outfielders but somehow in your mind they should be starting.... who exactly? Vaughn should obviously play his way through his issues, and he's obviously helping the team much more than any possible replacements would be. The guy has literally won like 3 games this year late. Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezussss.

Andrew Vaughn has been nearly a league average hitter (wRC+ of 98) But he needs to be demoted when the Sox have no outfielders on their roster and he's been more than adequate in LF. Holy moly, talk about some logical thinkers here at Soxtalk!

I mean, at this point you're beyond depth. They acquired high end talent in their trades to rebuild instead of multiple pieces risking duds and failures from all aspects. You can argue which method is better, but there's not really organizations that can suffer the amount of position players injuries the Sox have and have viable replacements. The Sox are on their 7-9 outfielders, and their 6-7+ infielders at this point. They need to make a move for an outfielder badly. Mendick can hold down 2nd base.

Keep moving those goal posts caufield.

And anyone in MLB can win 4 out of 7 vs any other team. Jaysus

Uh, they don't. Lets use 2019 as an example, Cleveland was 93-69 and their expected py record was 93-69 Oakland was 97-65 and their expected pyth record was 97-65 Lol can't even make that up. In 2018 Cleveland won 91 games, their pyth record was 98-64 In 2018, Oakland won 97 games and their pyth win total was 95. In 2017 Cleveland underperformed their expected wins by 6 wins despite winning 102 games. Literally nothing you said is true. Cleveland has been lucky this year.

Literally nothing that happened in the past years matters when analyzing this years results, where the Indians have a +3 Run Differential this year and are 9 games over .500. If you think that is sustainable then ok... I guess. Again, the past two decades are entirely irrelevant when assessing this year.

Should soxtalk rebuild soxtalk?!?!

So now guys who were pitching bad and replaced equal lost due to injury. lol The Padres are worse than the White Sox despite spending 40 million more. Thanks for clarifying that for us all. The Indians have a run differential of THREE, so you're right, it is a miracle they are even close to the Sox in the standings. It's called luck, it happens every year to someone.

He had the third highest fWAR among 2nd baseman in the AL when he got hurt, so he was certainly in the conversation.

The growth of offensive production is barely greater than it is in a normal season as the weather warms. It is slightly above the average rate of growth over the past ten years, but it's not something that may not just be noise or related to the fact that offenses started slower than before as well. A couple points. 1. Pitchers were going to hit dead arm periods earlier this year than in your typical season as they are reaching innings totals that are above last year already - which means pitcher fatigue was likely to set in sooner this year than your typical mid-July fatigue. 2. Offense has been trending downward for multiple years and that trend merely continued this year. There's no way that has been directly caused by more pitchers using sticky substances. The offensive decline this year is very likely tied to the fact that MLb changed the baseball when offenses were already trending down. 3. Spin rates have ALWAYS had variances start to start, the same way velocity does. Have substances effected spin, sure. Have they caused this entire offensive decline? Absolutely not. 4. Lance Lynn may have benefited from some increased spin - obviously he did to an extent - but did he benefit the way people in this thread believe? Absolutely not. The misuse of data and statistics around this issue has driven me crazy. Data was never meant to paint a picture AFTER you wrote your theory. It was meant to be analyzed versus a vast amount of information and then analyzed. As of now, all people are doing is confirmation bias where they ignore past years offenses changes as the year goes on, ignore the baseball change, ignore the offensive decline in general, and ignore the fact that as the season goes on pitchers tie, injuries pile up and offensive production grows. Lance Lynn and Dylan Cease aren't now bad pitchers because they can't put as much grip on a baseball. Is it entirely meaningless? No, but does it impact the game to the point that is being inferred by many here? Absolutely not. This is another example of baseball not getting out of its own way and "analytical" people distorting data to confirm their preconceived conclusions.