Look at Ray Ray Run

Did I hear someone say they have lost 300k ballots in PA? THe USPS? WUHHHHTT

Bovada sucks; they don't have anyone gambling there with a clue since they booted them. Bookmaker dropped down to +126 though for Biden. Pinnacle still sitting at +225.

I'm holding +274 so I like my position a lot; think this is a -150/+130 (or a little higher) race if anything at this point.

I like getting 2-1, but I'm weary of being excited. Think we're getting a 2-1 on a 58/42 but we're still holding the 42.

Market is settling around -250/+200. A little bit of better news than that -500 fire storms from earlier.

Biden down to +220. At least now we're holding a ++ position @Chicago White Sox Let's goooo

It's getting bad.

We don't get PA, we're screwed I think. I hope I'm wrong. We need PA.

Not a big Bovada fan as they boot anyone with money, and move on air, but every other book is around there now too so...

It's exhausting watching people link silver in political arguments. The platform that moron has is just maddening. Trump up to -550. This is getting outrageous.

He's not winning Ohio I don't think but that would be sweet. What we need is PA. I think we get it which is why I think the market is wrong.

Well Joe, I just took my largest position on a political race in my life. I know Nate SIlver is a moron and the people that move these markets are actual real originators, but who could pass up +274. Now I'll be poorer and miserable if Trump wins. Nice.

Markets to watch: Bookmaker Pinnacle Betfair is decent for live feels Those likely have by far the largest hold, and their movement has been really alarming given that neither have a position. All that said, it is also possible that his is a wag the dog situation. If you were holding futures for tomorrow on the market - and there are people holding huge positions for tomorrow - you could move the betting market with 150-250k and cause enough distress to cash in. Pinny is taking 100k live and BM is taking 46k live per.

Trump trading as a heavy favorite (-225 to -285) on almost all markets; I think it's a bit reactionary, and think Biden is still the favorite (even put some cash there) but it is alarming.

Exit polls mean nothing. this twitter thread a good reminder not to listen to anything. Just wait for the votes and actual results

Once Texas turns blue, which will happen within the next 10ish years, you will start to hear the narrative on "you can't change the way we elect!!!" change from the Republicans. One thing I will never ever understand about this country is it's sworn allegiance to a document written 250 years ago and it's insistence that it absolutely should not change despite the fact that it was written under the exact premise that things would need to be changed over time... via these things called amendments. Someone needs to tell the "originalists" that the founding fathers they swear by would be so confused by their views.

Yes, because clearly people who vote for the POTUS don't matter unless the people also vote for Senators that support that party... Think about how stupid your sentence is. The goal of elections isn't to fracture the legislative body and not allow a POTUS to get anything accomplished; if that was the case, the POTUS would be elected by the Senate. You keep saying elections have consequences, but it appears Republicans weren't themselves willing to deal with those consequences because they just pretended the people never voted for Obama. McConnell openly bragged about blocking everything of Obama's; that's not politics buddy, that's abusing the power you were given, and IGNORING the people and the vote to push one narrative in absence of the people's voice.

I don't remember that at all but the pain of that day may be distorting my memory. Brexit was a 42/58 split with a 3+ either way. I lost more money on that day than any day in my life because of polls and etc. Learned a lot that day. 1. Don't invest in currencies 2. Don't trust polls

Polling was absolutely broken and riddled with bias; I'm not going to say it was a silent majority because that is nonsense, but their complete whiff on Trump and on Brexit are prime examples that polling was not reaching the general audience in the way they believed.

It is truly fascinating for me to read the defensive takes of staunch "free-market" orthodox capitalism. Being someone who was once one of the bigger fan boys of free-market enterprise - having been indoctrinated through an education system that told me there was no other way - I genuinely understand and feel for those who continue to support this fictional system. The reality of it is though, it doesn't exists, it's not beneficial, and profits will always come before doing the right thing. We have seen this repeated time and time again (whether with Exxon knowing they were causing climate change and ignoring it for decades or others) and welfare is only welfare when it's given to the poor. It's a language and way of educating/speaking that intentionally convinces society that their are "winners and losers" and that the losers are losers by choice. THat's obviously nonsense. The fact is, innovation was not driven by profits; computers, medicine, and other monumental technological break thrus actually were created by government's - via R&D funded by tax payers - and not companies. They were then handed down to companies to be for profit entities in which the government chose who could enrich themselves and who couldn't. Elon Musk is a great example; he literally bought ownership into Tesla - he had no idea or tech innovation. The research was done by the US government and he received millions and millions in gov't contracts and support. In turn, based on that tax payer funded research, he is now one of the richest people in the world and trying to squash union uprisings everywhere.

Man, this is about as misinformed of a take as it gets. As to your genocide point, that has been debunked as complete nonsense. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-07-01/brull---the-boring-truth-about-chomsky/2779086 This is getting off topic again, but insinuating that Chomsky is a linguist just shows a complete lack of understanding of his reach, background, and knowledge. I would guess you have never read a single book written by the guy, but you conclude about his knowledge and cite a talking point that was used to try and demean a man who called out the hypocrisy of US politics and leaders for decade upon decade. He has more intellectual integrity than most anyone I have read/researched and that doesn't mean I agree with everything.

People in the US are denied treatment for their children, or bankrupted by it, but that doesn't scare you. In my twenties, I went 8 years without a doctors visit because I hadn't broken into my industry yet and my health care was complete trash. Our health care system deters people from using it. That is incredibly broken. Additionally, what scares you about Chomsky? Chomsky is more intelligent than the people you listen to on these topics. You can disagree with his politics, but it's nearly impossible to argue his intelligence and intellectual integrity. Chomsky literally discusses how big corporation and insurance companies have released propaganda to stow uncertainty within the population pertaining to universal health care. For fifty years this propoganda has degraded away at workers right and health care; in addition to climate change.

Read Chapter 2 of this book: https://www.amazon.com/Climate-Crisis-Global-Green-Deal/dp/178873985X I believe the free-preview covers thru the end of chapter two. If not, I'm happy to share the entire text with you. It goes over why you have been brainwashed to feel this way through a massive misinformation campaign. I don't blame you as you are merely the victim of a billion dollar campaign to deceive you. They touch on health care and how the disinformation campaign there relates to the environmental issues that we are dealing with as well. Orthodox capitalism is deadly.

I think this is the big issue to me. People think we are offering some superior product; I can't tell you how many times I've heard "that's why the rich from around the world come here for care." The argument that if we don't pay our doctors so much they will leave for other countries. It's all complete nonsense. Colombian hospitals are clean, safe, and have the same tech and care that we have here. Their doctors and system are driven by care for patients, and not profits though, which is really the major difference. Their government doesn't allow drug companies to exploit those in desperate need.

I've spent quite sometime in Colombia over the last five years; Colombia has big time poverty issues still, despite a growing economy. Colombia's health care is cheaper and BETTER than the USA's. It is cheaper for me to fly to Colombia, have a procedure done (dental or medical) and fly back than it is to have the same service here... and the quality of care is no different. Arguably, Colombia's QOC is better because there is no desire or reason to force you out early. Having witnessed that health care system in person, it truly opened my eyes even moreso to how broken our profit-driven, pro-pharma, approach is. We (TAX PAYERS) spend millions and millions of dollars on assisting big pharma develop drugs, and then they sell them back to us at inordinate cost levels while the rest of the world pays 1/10 the price and they didn't spend millions of their tax dollars developing the treatment. It is absolutely baffling.