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again you are now changing what was said and its exhausting. Computational analysis is done using a computer. Jaysus man, I'm in a master program studying this very thing formally. I've worked in the field. You comparing your brain deciding whether you can cross the street to computational analysis is complete and utter nonsense. Computational thinking is the combination of ones thought process and knowledge with computational analysis and the development of that process ON A COMPUTER in analysis programs and software. The goal is to combine a thought process with computational analytics. No point in carrying this conversation on further.

In the business world I would compare a manager to a project manager. They're important, they keep everything organized, they put everyone in the proper place, but they're not the most important, they're not the highest paid, and they're easily replaceable unless you have an amazing one.

Managers are not players bosses. Players make 10 times the money a manager does. People who compare this to their jobs are comparing apples to oranges. If I made 20 times as much as my manager, I would know I'm the one who is in control; I'd know that because the people in actual charge determined I was 20 times more valuable to the companies success than this guy bossing me around. Players have taken can control and its on managers and coaches to adjust. This took time but its come full circle with the modern player. The reason a GM still has some authority over players is because they can still fire them in theory. Managers have no leverage. They're less valuable, paid less, and can't fire anybody. That said, this isn't basketball or football and no one is demanding a trade.

Processing the color of grass or the location of the closest car when crossing the street amazingly doesn't fall under the definition of computational analysis. Sorry to break that to you. The definition of computational is.... you guessed it, relating to and using computers. This place is cracking me up today.

Man things sure do go over your head. I was saying you can't just say words and claim they mean something else. My wife being harassed by government officials, degraded and demeaned in the way she was is disgusting. You comparing a fan discussing a baseball manager on a public message board and calling him a moron, to a federal agent, whose salary I absolutely do pay, intimidating, screaming at, and verbally abusing my wife while calling her a liar while having her locked in a room is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard. The fact that you think those two things are similar certainly says a lot more about you than it does about me.

hey man, words matter. Analysis is not analytics. Those aren't the same thing. Im not nitpicking by using actual definition. I cant call you a moron and then say what I meant was something nice. Tony said yesterday that analytics were for before the game. Tony is a moron but I mean really smart when I say moron

He should have spoken to Abreu and Anderson before he did a press conference. Again this exemplifies the problem with La Russa in the modern game. The players have the power now, not the other way around. In all sports. They are why people attend games, they make the money, theyre the ones selling tickets. No one is paying to see Tony La Russa but for chisox1917 and the Hawk. Look at the great coaches in basketball and baseball - it is never ever about them. Vogel, Pop, Spoe, Tito, Bochy. The modern manager defers all credit, takes on all blame, and never holds players accountable publicly in an embarrassing way. This isn't 1980/1990 anymore. The job has changed and by not contacting a single player yet, tony is proving he has not.

So they didn't even give a formal interview to their second choice? Wuhhhtt?

What am I giving a rest? I take this stuff much less seriously than it appears many of you do. This is just baseball; a fun way to get away from day to day life. I can't stand la russa going on 33 years. I was born saying TLR sucks. But I also know it means very little and the team will be fine and I'm excited for next year. Not even Bevington could ruin these guys. As for being open minded, you need to take your own advice pal. I affiliate with no one but for evidence, science and facts. I dont play politics, I discuss people, feelings and emotions. I was once a patriot as a child and realized I had been brainwashed over time; mainly when I witnessed first hand how heinously the system treated my wonderful wife - who was born in Colombia and moved here 6 years ago. Watch your wife cry while being degraded by government officials, only to be threatened with arrest and jail when trying to defend her and then tell me about the greatness of the USA. I was being treated like a criminal for loving someone born somewhere else; a brilliant engineer with an advanced degree and compassionate soul. I wish more Americans were like my wife. I've witnessed the evil of "politics" from both parties. I align myself with people and causes, not parties and power. I respect your archaic views even though I know some breed the very ignornace and hatred that has caused pain for my wife and I. I try to listen; but in some cases its you who needs to listen. People are screaming loudly and it's not for attention; its out of pain and misery. Thanks for reading my tedtalk.

Player will usually say something like: Excited for the opportunity. Excited to meet coach! Lets go!!! Silence is defeaning in a situation like this.

Doing some oberservational analytics right now and my brain just computed that Tony La Russa is in fact old, and the players are indeed unhappy.

Who said this guys a geezer! Only took him 12 hours to learn how to make 1 post to twitter about his hiring! Rock on TONY!

The whole things reminds me of my uncle. My uncle hates that Tim Anderson kneels and fights for a cause, but he loves that he helps in the community.. he hates that he spoke out against cops, but loves that he helps kids and lives on the SOuth Side. I try to tell my uncle over and over that he clearly agrees with Tim's mission but he attacks him for it anyway because he's been brainwashed to think Kneeling is awful and that cop shaming is bad because the media he consumes told him so. There's some Chicago Police Blog that wrote a scathing article about Anderson - the comments section was riddled with racist and vile garbage and threats that were emboldened by authors and cops alike and not deleted. My uncle sent it to me as a "joke." There was nothing funny about it. The good thing about athletes becoming more vocal is that their fans are having a harder and harder time ignoring the issues they are bringing forward. They have two options, listen and try to understand or close their eyes and ignore it all. Because they love baseball, or football, or basketball so much it's incredibly difficult for them to leave it behind. People like Tim are making progress; slowly but surely. Keep that grind going Timmy!

People like Chisox are harmless though; for the reason that no one actually thinks he has good thoughts or ideas, so he may even cause some who think like he does to call their own thoughts into question. lol

What?!? Man we're really stretching terminology to mean something it does not. No biggie. I'm gonna add this to my resume. Doesnt even need a computer, my brain does computational analysis on its own.

This is all amazing. Thank you for defining observation for all of us. Unless Tony Larussa eyes are a literal fffing computer, he doesn't practice observational analytics. Analytics is the systematic computational analysis of statistics/data. So unless Tony is robocop and I didnt know it, it's a made up word and complete nonsense basically claiming youre smarter than information and process images like a computer. Its something someone who has no idea what analyticts really is would say. But you already told us how analytically tony was so obviously hes fooled you.

What? No where did I call you an idiot. Tony is an idiot using two words together that don't belong. Decision analytics is a thing. Analytics is a thing. Observation is a thing. Observational analytics is nonsense.

Jeeeezus, we've already got guys making posts regurgitating the made up word that is not a real thing that Larussa used "observational analytics." Thats not a thing. Its an idiots way of saying my eyes are a database.

Just when he leaves, you pullllll me back in. A SECOND TIER QB? Inaccurate down field? Wuhhhhhhttttt? Watson leads the NFL in Y/A this year and a 70% completion rate. So he throws the ball further down field than any QB in the NFL this year and has the 7th highest completion % in the NFL. A second Tier QB, sheeeeesh. Watson is one of the best of the best. He does all that behind an awful o-line. Watson is one of the 5-7 best QBs in the NFL.

Bruce Bochy = Great Manager Never about Bruce. Good tactician, manages BP solidly. Won in places with money and without. Never a peep out of his clubhouses in 30 years. The consummate professional. Teams overacehived much more than they underachieved. Tito = Great manager Never about Tito. Great with his guys; maybe the best manager of huge personalities the game has ever had. Overachieved much more than underachieved. Never a negative word said about the guy from anyone. Good manager of his bullpen and good effort from his guys always. Have a good night; been a fun day on Soxtalk! A semi-return to normalcy as everything shuts down around us.

Logging off, but wanted to add one last thought; I think so many have simply forgotten about the Scott Rolen ordeal in 2006. Could you imagine Rick Renteria sitting Tim Anderson in a WS game to make a point? Soxtalk would explode; the in-game thread would reach such lengths that the LOTR trilogy would be envious of.

No, I'm looking at his entire career. Cheated in Oakland; those A's teams had more cheaters than any roster in the sports history. No one will ever call out Rickey, but don't be stupid... loved Rickey, but Rickey loved vitamins. He was an ass in Oakland; he showed huge favoritism towards McGwire, Rickey absolutely hated him and he wasn't alone in that hate. Everything Canseco said about LaRussa I'd bet my life is true. Terry Bevington could have won with those Oakland teams. When he went to the Cardinals he was trash; disrespect Ozzie. Ridiculed Rolen causing a big rift in the locker room. Tony comes from an era where players were held "accountable" in a much more college way. He carried that with him with the Cardinals. I always ask people to tell me what Tony was great at. I never get an answer. I hear he was innovated - batting the pitcher 8th - but all his innovations were analyzed and proven to be complete nonsense and worthless. So what was Tony LaRussa great out besides being surrounded by great players for a few years and winning with them?

I get it, and I'm just saying I never thought Tony was anything special or any good in the first place so my stance on him now is that he was a shit then, and he's shit now. I get that I am in the minority, and that is 100% OK. I know many thought Tony was a great manager; I always thought people thought that because Tony told that to anyone willing to listen.

School has been much easier for me as an adult; that doesn't mean I'm sharper, I am just much more disciplined and it's my money lol. My test scores have gone done (as a kid tests were a breeze and HW a drag) but my research and analysis and "homework" has improved mightily. There are pluses to maturity and aging, but there reaches a point where the negatives clearly outweigh that "experience" learned knowledge. I like to say, most people tell you they have 20 or 30 years experience doing something but the reality is they have 1 year experience 30 times. They didn't learn or change. If you're not willing to evolve and adapt, you really never gained any experience. I'm not saying that's Tony.

Well said; I was speaking with my father about this today - he is 64. He is the smartest man I've ever met - I'm sure most kids say this - and I have great respect for my father. When I have a question or a concern, he is the first call I make. When I'm unsure if I'm right or wrong, same thing. His response, "you're not the same person at 75, 70 or even my age as you were in your 50's and 40's. We're stupid enough as a country to keep electing people that are of an age that as they decline we don't even allow the press to speak of it. It's science; I hate it, I feel it everyday. It doesn't get better, but as a business owner you have a choice... of course this is Jerry we're talking about though."