Look at Ray Ray Run

Indians get better this year.

QUantrill will turn into a star with their pitching development.

Between the both of them, they've had one career season in the top 10 in WAR as a pitcher. It's not the only metric that exists, but neither are in that category. Today? The top 10 IMO (in no order) Degrom, Darvish, Giolito, Scherzer, Cole, Greinke, Flaherty, Buehler, Bieber, Verlander (when healthy).

Just because someone disagrees with your assessment doesn't make them upset. He's been a top 6 pitcher as a 26 year old the past year +. He has shown an ability to improve and evolve - which is a sign of a star in baseball. So to me, I don't really understand the claim that he's a #2 or #3 when all he's done for the past year is perform as a #1. I guess if you expect regression, but he's actually gotten better over the past 18 months so not sure why he'd regress

Clevinger and Bauer are no where near top 10 pitchers. JFC

Giolito has 6.6 fWAR in his last 220 innings pitched as a 26 yr old and he's not a 1 and won't become one... it's an interesting proclamation to say the least. That's 7th highest in baseball in the past 1 yr + 1 month. White Sox fans underrating of Giolito is just odd. Maybe it's because he was so bad for that period of time. In Giolito last 220 IP he has a higher WAR than Verlander and Strasberg in near identical IP. I doubt anyone would question those guys title as a #1.

He literally would not be.

I'm just not a big Clevinger guy. He's a big upgrade over their back end, but I don't value him as a top of the rotation guy.

i follow jake burger on instagram, and he's retiring and giving up on baseball because he went to a football game with his girlfriend

Fathom follows the message boards and twitter feeds of all of baseball; he could connect all the dots. maybe he is cishek afterall....

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What if the sox trade big stick nick? That would be devastating. I have to watch nick torment harold for the next decade. It's at the core of my sox fanhood.

Say what, rumple stiltskin?

who's the resident media expert?

You are saying a lot of things that simply aren't true to support your claim. 1. Everyone did 2. I'll argue this until I'm blue in the face, but he read the tea leaves here... but if I will give him "one move" for the year, this is it 3. No 4. So? Plenty of people said this. 5. Wrong 6. The Sox scouted him multiple times; I knew that and I'm not an insider 7. Piggybacked this as well; this was said by multiple people. I follow about 500 Sox twitter accounts, and what Cishek does is play off the story or the speculation/thought/feed. That doesn't mean he doesn't have a buddy that works in the front office who blurted out one thing to him once.

I'd be upset in a regular year, but this year is just so bizarre and with the 3 game first round series, it's an even bigger crap shoot; I wouldn't value WAR acquired this year for anything really.

yeah, i was being a bit of a debbie downer. ill admit that. the fake insiders are such dorks it irks me for some reason lol. I also don't really want to trade very many people.

to clarify, he follows him but has been for a long time if it's in order. Also, he follows other Indians too.

Oh, then this tweet is wrong. He didn't just start following him.

Serious question, how do you see when someone started following someone? Always wanted to know that.

Clearly he just got off the phone with Rick and had to correct himself.

I can't wait to hear that twitter "ruined" another trade though. those are my favorite.

jajajajajaja true. fair enough, I just think it's funny that many on Soxtalk ask why these trolls exists on twitter and what they get out of tweeting fake rumors... and this is what they get out of it.

Schins is one of the worst. That guy wouldn't stop tweeting lies and fake rumors for weeks after he claimed to have become a writer for hitpen or somewhere like that.

not agitated with you at all; probably just naturally a dick on Monday mornings lol Just have no idea why soxtalk gives so much bandwidth to Twitter trolls.