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They've been fired, which is not surprising in the least

The commissioner's office isn't going to gut a team for a decade.

It's a pretty huge deal.

How bout the part of the report that Hinch protested the cheating, and went as far to damage the monitors Cora set up. Dude, you're the boss. Fire the guy.

I always hear people say they wish he was more a part of that team, but man, they miss the playoffs without him.

If it could be measured why in the world would you not?

A- on the whole. Wheeler over Kuechal would have made it an unqualified success. Still, I would have signed up for this offseason in a heartbeat in September.

You imply it didn’t begin at the bottom of a cliff

You know the numbers they submit aren’t necessarily the ones that try to negotiate for right?

Maybin has had 10x the career of Milledge

I knew it was going to be that much, but god that's a lot of money for Colome.

Yeah I don’t get it

Bader or O'Neill is significantly less interesting than the ideas I cooked up in my head.

Super weird the way this is breaking, I almost have to imagine it's a 3 team situation.

The ideas that it was just a hobby and that players needed to earn workers rights are incongruous

I mean, I wish any of this were true

That's 10 to 12 million dollars for an 'improvement' that is impossible to quantify.

Well, they won't stop winning for one.

What is the point of scapegoating a guy for managing a AAA roster that everyone knew was going to be awful? A team whose end goal was very obviously not "Win baseball games"?

And Boston and New York and Tampa Bay didn't.

Agreed, also, Bryant can't pitch so

They could have hired Joe Schmo is my point. Joe Torre, for example, isn't a great manager because he knew when to bunt or when to turn it over to the best relief pitcher to ever do it, he's a great manager because he helped keep one of the greatest rosters ever constructed from wanting to beat the shit out of each other on a daily basis. I'd also go on record saying moving A-rod to leave Jeter at short is one of the worst tactical decisions ever made, but from a team continuity and chemistry standpoint, which is what I'm arguing is a managers real job, makes sense.

If Ricky had Scott Rolen, Albert Pujols, and Jim Edmonds his team the last three years, I think we'd be singing a different tune.