poppysox

A watched pot never boils. Take that.

Yankees scare me. Their prospects are always over promoted.

The Cease deal needs to have next seasons starting right fielder and a 2nd baseman or starting pitcher with upside. I definitely prefer any deal have two high quality and ready for the majors' players rather than someone's idea of a haul (4 or 5 players from down the food chain) has no interest for me.

We can use some glue.

Good...let's just keep him.

ESPN has him identified as a CFer. Ya just can't trust anyone these days.

Does anyone know if Cowser has a right fielder's arm. I know his range is good since he is primarily a Center Fielder.

Yep...Gio getting almost 20 million for 2 years say all you need to know about Cease and his value.

Noone is saying start both.

Madrigal was traded...not dumped. A team like our WS have the funds for maybe 6 or 7 high-priced so-called stars (12-25 million) and the rest need to be useful players (1-10 million) types. Both Lopez and Madrigal play multiple positions reasonably well. Both can run a little and have OBP in the mid .320's, which would be among the leaders on the white sox. I love that Madrigal has many extended at-bats which help ware down the opposing team's starter IMO. I am aware that I come from the go-go era of white sox baseball and that undoubtedly colors my viewpoint that little slap hitters can be useful.

Why not? The Cubs are deep in outfield prospects and Madrigal is available. Covers our 2 biggest needs realistically.

Thank you for your "opinion."

Well stated "opinion."

Opinion defined is a view or judgement formed about something not necessarily based on fact. Of course, it's refutable. In the collective mind of professional scouts, he was among the best players in his draft class. He was fast tracked to the majors and almost immediately had injury problems. In my "opinion"...the jury is still out on his worth.

For the reason you stated. Competiton drives up the return.

Fans never want to overpay. We want to give up half a dozen crap players for the other guy's star. The best trades are Dick Allen for Tommy John straight up type deals. I have a need...you have a need. We have a need for a high-quality right fielder, and a high-quality second baseman. Whoever can best fill that order can have Cease IMO. I know that we can use some high-quality pitchers as well...but we aren't going to receive 3 high end players for 2 years of Cease.

Thanks for the enlightened "opinion."

Thant's why I ended my comment with IMO. Now we have your "opinion."

Seems like Getz is stockpiling projects for Bannister and his veteran catchers. Might just work with a few of these guys.

Well...I agree with the swell dude part.

I remember Carlos Lee for Scotty Pods got this same reaction. Lots of different types can make a really good team. Unless your team can buy the best player available at every position...compromises need to be made. Madrigal will end up being a very useful player one of these days IMO.

What I mean is I prefer major league ready players rather than a year or two away. Also, quantity is not as important as quality.

If the Cubs are successful in resigning Bellinger...Pete Crow-Armstrong will be blocked as is Madrigal. My belief is we need to find blocked players that are major league ready at our two weakest positions. I like Madrigal more than most here, but the concept of blocked players is my interest in posting. The two position players I mention plus a #3/4 potential SP and perhaps a RP with potential would be a very satisfactory return for Cease.

Build a package for Cease around Pete Crow-Armstrong and Madrigal. Buy our playoff tickets.

Getz made the Hill deal today even with the WS offices being closed. He lives and breathes this stuff 24/7.