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And then Adrian Brody mentioned his buddy in the service in Kuwait and sent his best wishes - Pedrom Almodovar just won for best original screenplay and read a very short statment that was not as eloquent as Brody but scored a lot more points than Moore's - short and sweet without shoving it in people's faces is better than to just stomp on them.

It wasn't the place for that speech - he said you have to use every forum but that doesn't help and just not the time and place - exactly as Jane Fonda said she won, she said "I've got a lot to say but this is not the time or place " and that was class - Adrian Brody spoke so much more eloquently, that speech was so moving - and f***ing A Em won!

Adrian Brody's speech was very moving - the Pianist shows what happens when hate prevails - hope evryone sees it - he was brilliant in Son of Sam too -

Gotta get with the culture! Gotta watch the Oscars! Trust me, it will be in the papers tomorrow what Moore said - not sure myself it was the right forum to say everything he said, although I agreed with what he said -

If you have one, one opportunity -- Eminem won the f***ing Oscar for best song! The f***ers wouldn't even let him perform and he won anyway! And Adrian Brody won best oscar for the Pianist which means more people will see that movie that shows what happens when hate prevails - Opportunity comes once a lifetime, yo! As weird as my f***ing family may be, we may be the only three generation family of Em fans - Son, he did it! Grandson, he did it! A world apart we can rejoice in spirit together - in sad times we have a happy moment - When you have a dream - go for it, go for it, because it may never come again Em!

In my opinion, no, based on what the definitions were at the time of Vietnam by those I knew, all of us very draftable. Clinton was against the war and was not in favor of sending others. Bush was in favor of the war and got VIP treatment into the Guard where he was awol. In the group of guys that I hung out, it made a major difference whether one was for the war or not. Many who were not for the war went into the military. No one had any problems with those who opposed the war and do not serve. Those who were for it, but had excuses not to go, those were the ones that the scorn was for. Moral consistecny was the key. When I walk along the Wall, my anger is for those who supported war butn had every excuse not to go. My grief is for those who died in a war that some people supported who refused to go, not for those who opposed the war and did not go. As far as the question about my son, I was just at the CNN site per your tip, and was then at the Marine site. Until he is home safe I am not saying where he is because I am not supposed to. Also, like talking about a no hitter until it happens - hell, it is my supersitition but right now it keeps me going. One of those things. So ironic to be going through what my grandmother did - her poem was printed in the Tribune in 1945 and spoke of starring at maps sitting in the kitchen and filling the ashtrays and trying to imagine safety. And when I first read her poem - who knew that someday the only difference was that I'd be staring at a computer screen... I deeply appreciate your concern and prayers. My heart skips every time new casualty news is given - it hit home when one of the first to die was a friend of a friend. I deeply appreciate your friendship on this. No matter what happens to my kid it is dwarfed by the fact that multitudes of parents will lose their children on all sides. I just keep picturig holding him in my arms when he was 2 and frightened by thunder and I would sing to him sitting in the rocking chair and tell him that I would keep him safe always. He grew up as a Tigers fan and a Michigan State fan to irk me. However he is at least an Eminem fan like his old man and his son, my beloved grandson who I hold now and tell him I will keep him safe - and he is 8 and very aware of the news. And I am aware what a bulls*** promise it is that I can keep him safe either. Sorry to be emotional. God damn it I hate war.

The AP has a story on it: Chem Plant a quote from the link: " Officials cautioned it was premature to conclude any forbidden weapons had been located. "

the hair dye plant would have to be twice that size for Saddam alone let alone the decoys!

Any schoolgirl would have more courage. HSC was a schoolgirl and she would run from nothing. Please do not insult schollgirls by comaprting them to G W Bush. And as I recall it, most Americans voted for a veteran for president in 2000 - right now I am trying to remember what was Cheney's excuse - was his the old football trick new, or was his the few pounds overweight?

If Kalamazoo, Michigan was invaded, the number of chemical plants found would be amazing. Does Viagra grows on trees? Or asprirn? Or cleaning solvents? Like so many other rumors that have turned out not to be true, I'd be banking on this one yet. Of course Iraq has chemical plants. Everybody does. If a chemical weapon plant of this size were to exist and had not been found, then I would ask a lot of questions of what US intelligence was telling the UN weapons inspectors anytime from 1991 to a week ago. But a large chemical, plant found? You all probably live within hailing distance of one. There have been too damn many rumors and conclusion jumping already. Can't we all wait until it is not a breathless story by a 24 news channel that has to fill airtime with something, but a confirmed story?

Is that really true or are you toking tonight? Never thought I'd read that sentance in my life.

well, so far all of the British aircraft shot down has been done by us

always has been, always will be

If we meet resistance? This wasn't a tupperware party we crashed. If our command officers were not expecting the possibility of guerilla warfare or "ambushes" (the British b****ed about us doing that in the Revolution...) they should be shot. War is not a by the rules matter with referees and fouls called... and when you go for regime change you expect every tool to be used in a fight to the death. No naivte allowed. I am very confident that our command officers had expected everything however. I think the news media is being a bit goggle eyed at reality. I wish to hell I knew where my son was right now. Turns out the first Marine killed was the friend of a friend. It is close to home already at my house. Semper Fi - be safe my son - and I am still against this god damned war more than ever. What the hell was the public expecting? A waltz? A party?

missed that one - it said what???? Right now I am hot on learning all i can in this regards.

according to the article - and remeber Qaddafi is a secularist and bin laden is a religious fanatic - the Libyan hatred for bin laden was because of long ago terrorism from bin laden against Libya - which is why it turned out (and news to me) that Libya was the first country a long time ago that wanted an international death warrant on bin Laden. I cannot provide a link, I wish I could. My past experience is that New Yorker articles are not available on line for several weeks. The best I can say is current issue on sale now. It looks very evenhanded to me because the pluses and minuses of each president, Bush 1 and 2 and Clinton, are dealt with in this perspective. Bush 2 seems a tad out of touch, Clinton operating on too many tracks for his own good, and Bush 1 as always going on personal relationships as paramount. And the strengths of all 3 are there too.

In the current (24 March) issue of the New Yorker, an article "The Prince: by Elsa Walsh is some of the most surprizing reading that I have done lately. The article is about Prince Bandar bin Sultan, longtime Saudi ambassador to the US, member of the Saud royal family by birth and marriage. Among other things, it reports: Lybia both before and after September 11th has been very helpful in going after al Queda. In fact in the late 90s Libya offered to assassinate bin Laden. The offer may never have reached Clinton, possibly not passed on by CIA chief Tenet. Libya has a long standing hatred of bin Laden. The Bushs have a long history of close personal relationships with the Saud royal family through Bandar, including holiday gatherings. In 1994 King Faud of Saudi Arabia and Clinton agreed to remove Saddam from power and plans were undertaken - but it is still as yet unknown why they did not proceed. Bush is very out of touch with the Palestinian-Israeli issue - in the words of a Pentagon senior official, "he doesn't know his stuff." Crown Prince Abdullah had to show pictures of dead Palestinian children to Bush to get Bush to see the other side of the issue. Cheney is seen as increasingly hostile to Mid East issues from the Mid East point of view. Cheney and Rice both mishandled some basic diplomacy that almost cost the US the support of Saudi Arabia in anything. It took a near shouting match between Powell and Bandar on the deck of the Crawford ranch to catch Bush's attention and realize that everything was being undeemiined beneath him. And Powell and Bendar are old racketball buddies from the 70s. Rumsfeld abandoned diplomacy with Abdullah going off on a thing about American weaponry rather than deal with a pressing issue to Saudi Arabia - the removal of Saddam. The Saudis have a longstanding hatred of Saddam and have long wanted to oust him - because they fear Saddam coveted their oil fields. The first Bush used Bandar as his intermediary to Saddam. Saddam played off Bush and Bandar with a presumed interest in Israel (which he evidently is not that interested in) while he was prpearing to invade Kuwait. Arafat was far more responsible for wrecking the last days peace initative of Clinton than anyone realized, even those who blamed Arafat underestimated how close it was to peace. (Side note not in the article - if anyone saw Clinton on Letterman on September 11th 2002 that would explain why Clinton went almost ballastic when Arafat's name came up.) That no matter what, the Saudis see no peace in the Middle East until the Israel-Palestine issue is settled. Bush has displayed some relevatory religious faith which is guiding him, inlcuding almost blowing everything with Abdullah by wanting to say Christian grace at meal. It would appear that if you can get Bush to get misty eyed he is more prone to moving in certain directions. The article also recounts other foibles of Bush 1, Bush 2, and Clinton diplomacy and gives a fascinating insight into how things work from a perspective that we rarely if ever see. As I read the article it was neither for nor against anything/anyone that we have arguing here, just fascinating insights into how things work - and who knew about Libya being so helpful on bin Laden?

ctually, I think it is that I hate it when people wrong things based on what they remember rather than looking it up! Good catch, I had missed that. And I'm glad others here are liking this team too. I have Sox fever already. I want baseball now.

I love it when you analize! agreed as the great superiority of soxnet posters - and as well, this site is far easier to use, too!

I'll agree to everything said here -

I will confess that I did not see that throw. The most amazing arm that I ever saw over a season or two was on a young player from the early 90s who could rocket that ball in from the outfield. Unfortunately that player stopped dveloping as a fielder and had a bad attitude and I was glad when we traded him away after the 1992 season. Now that same dude cannot play RF at all and is all about himself and stats, an attitude problem that was developing when we rightly got rid of that now so-so player.

Jason, I would suspect that people fighting for Iraq include people fighitng for their country against an invading force. People may have all kinds of views of who their government is, yet kind of be ticked at other nations' troops invading and bombing their country. A strong caution is never to apply to others what one would presume their motives to be because of one's own position. And knowing you as I have had the good fortune to do, I read you post knowing the innate goodness of your heart. If the desire to liberate were only so. If Reagan and Bush 1 and Rumsfeld and Dole and all of those of two Republican administrations had never supplied Saddam with arms and coddled him because of short term and short sighted policy goals fropm 1981-1990. But the ifs don't make it so. This action has many motivations, all of them short shorted which will boomerang on this nation just as all the prior short sighted policy aims have, and the motives are not pure. This action by this administration is not worthy of someone with as good of a heart as you - by which I mean, to be clear, in a very real sense this war policy is a betrayal of people of pure intent as you are. Interesting article is here, which suggests some of the motivations that lie behind what is happening: why some want total war

from today's NYTimes Grenade Attack Kills 1 By JIM DWYER CAMP NEW JERSEY, Kuwait, Sunday, March 23 — In an apparent fratricide attack, one soldier was killed and 13 others were wounded early this morning when grenades were thrown and shots were fired into a tent used by leaders of a brigade from the 101st Airborne Division, military officials said. "An American soldier is in custody," Maj. Trey Cate, a spokesman for the division. Major Cate did not identify the detained soldier or suggest a motive, but military sources described him a sergeant attached to an engineering unit, an American citizen, and a Muslim convert. He was found in a scud bunker when senior officers took a head count after the attack. The attack took place at 1:21 this morning in Camp Pennsylvania, where soldiers from the First Brigade were sleeping. The tent was in a "command and control area" for the brigade, which was poised to move later today into Iraq as part of the second wave of ground troops from the 101st, according to Major Cate. One soldier died from injuries suffered in the attack, two military officials said, on the condition that they not be identified. Major Cate said between one and four grenades were used in the attack. Shots were fired from a gun, another military source said. The explosions in the middle of the night, after two full days of scud alerts and attacks, created a chaotic scene of smoke, alarm, and cries for help. Jim Lacey, a correspondent for Time Magazine, told CNN that the attack had occurred in the tent immediately behind his at Camp Pennsylvania, and that the tents were still smoldering as medical personnel evacuated the wounded. "The people who did it ran off into the darkness," Mr. Lacey said. The injured were brought to two field hospitals that have been set up for battlefield casualties. The injuries "range from very serious, to scratches," Major Cate said. Col. Richard Thomas, the division's surgeon, said fragementation from the grenade explosion was responsible for most of the injuries. In addition, at least one soldier was treated for gunshot wounds. "Most of the soldiers are expected to recover," Colonel Thomas said, "but several of the injuries were very serious." Immediately after the attack, two Kuwaiti men who worked at the camp as contractors were seized. Within an hour, attention turned to the American soldier who is suspected of carrying out the attack. "A criminal investigation is under way," Major Cate said. American military forces have been under high security here ever since last fall, when the first of a series of terrorist attacks was mounted against soldiers preparing for the invasion of Iraq. The military encampments are set in vast spaces of desert, with only unmarked and makeshift roads leading into them, and are heavily fortified. Shortly after the grenade attack, a Patriot missile was launched from this camp, about five miles south of Camp Pennsylvania. Sirens roared the alarm, and a mid-air explosion was seen overhead as the Patriot intercepted a missile. It was not immediately clear what kind of missile was shot down, or where it had been fired from. The military uses the term "fratricide" to describe both intentional and accidental attacks by American soldiers on each. Indeed, a key focus of this campaign was the avoidance of casualties from "friendly fire," which by some counts, caused the majority of injuries and deaths during the ground campaign in the 1991 Persian Gulf war. The concern over an intentional attack by one American soldier on others was far more muted, although once ammunition arrived in large quantities, morale officers urged vigilance among soldiers who might have personal problems and do harm to themselves. Many soldiers said that today's incident cut deeper than an enemy attack. "I was really shocked when I found out that a service member was suspect in this," Staff Sgt. Mark Swart said. "I know the people who were in there, and they are really great guys — it's amazing that anyone would strike at them." The 101st Airborne is a rapid deployment group that primarily conducts helicopter gunships attacks against enemy armor. Roughly 18,000 members of the 101st are in Iraq and Kuwait. They are preparing to use hellfire missiles, fired from Apache helicopters, against the armored Iraqi Republican Guard brigades that ring Baghdad. Ground forces from the 101st are preparing staging areas that would allow the helicopters to refuel without leaving Iraq.

then why, oh why are they ex girl friends?

it is only child abuse when you put a child in a cubs uniform!