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ok, I met him at SoxFest 2002 in the Kids Corner and was very impressed. Whatever else, unless it effects the tem, is none of my business. You know him otherwise, I respect that. If he needs to mature I hope he does.

BJ, I clicked on the picture and realized it was the sdame one that we me $500 of therapy to get out of my mind the last time I saw it! For the rest - you know me well enough to know I am very well prepared to discourse on those at length - the fall of communism particularly was the triumph of ideas and consumerism over ideology and repression - no war there - if anything, massive military spending helped backrupt the USSR; with the projected $350 billion deficit without the proposed tax cuts and without the costs of any of this war preparation and probable war factored in, we are following right in their footsteps. For the rest - what do you take as your starting date? I dop not feel that we are in any way in any situation comprable to 1939 or 1941 and 1861 vis a vis Iraq and there were so many possibilities that were never explored in the prior years to WWII and the Civil War - I wrote major papers in seminary on the role of Bonhoeffer with the German resistance and the assassination plots and pacifism and the penultimate situations in which an ethic may be broached - too too much to do here in this forum and I am in a baseball mood - I feel like hugging my friends and looking at all we have in common in celebrating, not contention. Get me another day when I am pissed at things. There are other options, there are always other options. But I will tell you one thing: any little male supporter of war that is not in the military is to be a f***ing god damned hypocrite who should be forcably shut up. I felt that way in the Vietnam years and I feel that way now. Anyone who thinks people should fight and die in wars, go do it and put your ass on the line. Arm chair warriors who sit at home and say others should fight and die disgust me. Especially arm chair warriors who ahve a million whiny self-in dulgent excuses: I'm in school. I can't leave my dvd player. Believe it, then back it up with your whole life and risk your own self for what you believe. Anything else is hypocrasy and mortal cowardice of the extreme kind. And if America really should go war, all the patriots would be on the front lines and not in the campus bars saying f*** France, right? How can anyone criticise France when they will not put their own ass on the line? Cowards want the French to fight wars they will not fight themselves. The hypocrasy of it, I detest. That is why baggio, HSC, and I never get into it although we totally disagree. They are veterans. No hypocrasy in their lives. And any punk ass white boy who thinks that war is good while my son is a Marine and they are not in the military talking tough in this country, like that guy in the sign, I would like to take that sign and peacefully and while singing Where Have All the Flowers Gone shove that sign up the two bit hypocrite's asshole. Why isn't that f***er in the service if he thinks war is good? I'll you why - he is a coward, a moral coward, and no friend of America if he will not enlist and fight for what he thinks is right. Pansy ass wants to send others to fight wars while he stays at home? f***ing asshole should be shot - peacefully. And if my son is killed in this war that others want - trust me, every male of military age who talks big stuff about this war and does not enlist - better avoid me for the rest of their lives. Stay the f*** away from Comiskey because my son ain't dying in some war that anyone else wants so they can drink beers at a baseball game. Someone wants war - enlist or shut the f*** up and get some moral connections in their life. Back up what one says with their life. That is all I will respect. See why I like baseball? It is easier to discuss. I wil need to do an hour of yoga tonight to calm down.

oh, ok, but in the sign of your signature, war did not end slavery in Europe, it was done because of the abolitionist social movement which peacefully took hold everywhere except in he US where it was resisted by war... facism collapsed under its own weight, Mussolini was gone before the allied troops were anywhere close to taking Italy - and if Communism fell in any war in 1989, I missed it - actually all of Eastern Europe threw off communism without war and the Soviet Uniuon collapsed without war and China turned away from communism without war - so the dude with the sign is abit silly and a tad ill informed! the non violent collapse of communism can be attributed to a number of factors, and if we applied those same factors towards anywhere else, I believe the same results would happen. Without war. Now if the young man carying the sign would care to enlist to put his own ass on the line for what he claims to believe, that would be cool! Send HSC that picture! It is precisely because of its effect on Heather that HSC wants it!

I cannot believe there is a Kris Honel thread in which I have not posted what a great guy he is as a human being and how I wish him all great success - so here it is in this thread - I love reading about him because I can really appreciate this guy!

I'd call your intentional (benefit of the doubt) misinterpretation of my post stupid if I didn't already have so much respect for you. the respect is very mutual and it seems that I have missed something in your post - stupidity is not unknown in my life - and send HSC the picture again! It is obviously cold in Chicago and she needs you to light her fire as only you can do!

we as a nation and as individuals per capita give a very small percentatge of actual GNP and income to assist others but I agree that American consumerism can sweep anything out of the way and we could use that as force for everything we wanted without recourse to war if we were so inclined

What do you drive, over the sidewalks? Jason, great report, thanks! Things like this make me love soxtalk more and more each day - I feel like I am learning things and not hanging with idiots (as on the MLB boards)

I may be your best bet for a Lions fan here. I am first of all a Dolphins fan; have lived in Michigan since 1975 and have tried hard to be a Lions fan but it never happened. But I am a big time "Joey Harrington on the Lions" fan and slowly becoming a Lions fan. I am very happy with the signing of Mariucci and who knows, I may actually be a Lions fan before the season starts - I always be a Dolphs fan but there is room in my heart for the Lions. You'll note in my sign and avatar some familiar Michigan people - are you in Michigan?

I am not willing, so then, I don't want Beltran.

no no no to all those proposed trades we keep crede, we keep rauch, we keep honel hell we even keep malone (I think) Beltran would be a good add but at what cost with Joe B in the wings and Aaron going to be just fine? The right cost without compromising our future, do it - but without compromsiing ourselves and weakening ourselves elsewhere because it isnl;ty exactly that we are dead and have no future at cf

Make sure you keep that Vince. While it may be absolute s*** right now, considering you are probably the only guy who ever asked Klayton for an autographed pic in a White Sox uni, it will be worth a mint in about 100 years. Your great-great-great grandson will be able to make a killing on it when a White Sox collector finds out that the Klayton signature on a baseball-related item is a one-of-a-kind..... the only one known in existence cubkilla, that was exactly my reasoning! When I asked Clayton for his autograph he was stunned and I am sure that I am only person ever who asked him for his autograph in a Sox uni!

maybe they can prop ted up in the corner as hitting coach?? bad taste i know but i couldnt help it that could only be done on dry ice night

HSC, you think with Williams on the team they can get a frozen foods or popsicle sponser for a game?

another name for ephedra is Ma Huang or variant spellings thereof - stay away from it - and skip the stuff with caffeine too - which only artificially boost heart rate when you are strenuously using your body - HSC has given some nice alternatives, and there are plenty of energy things out there with no ephedra/ma huang and and no caffeine that will work just fine and be all natural and enhance your work out, not kill you - this weekend I am getting my re-certification done as a fitness specialist - I would imagine that for those of you who have met me, you think, he is is a fitness leader?? and I may not not look like it but I am and have the 9% total body fat, the blood presure, heart rate (60) and cholesteral levels to back it up - which I say not to brag but just to say I know a little about this and I work with this stuff - and I used to do the ephedra too and saw what that did to the numbers for my own self - so I'm not some old guy preaching at young guys, I am just trying to say there are safe ways to achieve your goals without jeopardizing your life

doubleM23, kipwellsfan, sideshowapu, soxheads, you ever come to Chicago, the drinks are on me I'll drive down from Michigan just to say thank you in person -

NPR just did a story on the autopsy results - ephedra/effedra was in his body which is what caused it to get his body temperature up to 108 and cooked his organs - ephedra/effrada was in the bodies of Rashidi Wallace and the other college player who dropped dead in practice that year - ephedra/effedra was in the locker of Kory Stringer who droipped dead at the Vikings training camp - speed kills. I hope everyone out there who takes this s*** toss it down the toilet now. It is a horrible way to die and how much more proof does anyone need that it kills?

Psycho, in his sig he says Kucinich (I might be spelling it wrong but he spells it right) for president - can you tell em who Kucinich is? I think his choice right there speaks to a very good insight into America and speaks to a real love of our country to select a most interesting choice for president - let me know when you know who Kucinich is - and I think apu is everything an American should be, and I apply that to bags too - people who are thinking and contributuing - baggio and apu, I love it when you guys talk mutual respect despite wide divergencies - I'm feeling all red, white, and blue now (sniff sniff)!

lots of MLB teams play their AAA team before the season for all the reasons given - the Tigers have been losing to theirs a lot recently

I echo that, RPS. It would seem odd until one looks at the history and the comfort levels - and Olivio can learn watching Sandy handle the aces because in 2004 he will be doing it We agree on something? woah! We agree a lot on baseball, a lot - we agree on the joy of being at the Cell - we agree on the joy of friendships with good people - we agree that getting blow jobs is really a good thing and not done enough - we agree that USC should fall into the ocean - we agree that the pictures you used to send me (hint hint send more) were very funny and that is off the top of my head! You are entitled to be wrong on a few things but I note that the offcial color of sarcasm is green and that applies to your leprachon school

The rest of what you posted came through on my screen as "message garbled" so must be a computer glitch - the one statement that came through, I do agree with - I am glad he is gone too and have tried to make that clear

I echo that, RPS. It would seem odd until one looks at the history and the comfort levels - and Olivio can learn watching Sandy handle the aces because in 2004 he will be doing it

go for it!

I kind of thought you'd have JP as your cabana boy

you are on my list of people who I am going to sit next to at the cell when Royce Ring hits the bigs so I can hear you shout out, Lets Go Royce!

Out of line, buddy. I will not adopt you and bring you to the All Star game now. So far this thread has featured "f*** you" and "f*** France" and "shove a missile up the ass of the Statute of Liberty" (there is your antiAmerican for you) and one debatable statment that France did not help much in the Revolution on the one hand, and a series of factual presentaton on the other. As far as France's military history didn't know we had so many military scholars in here which seem to forget a lot of other things in French history, including their stalwart defense against the Nazi blitzkrieg that allowed Dunkirk to happen and the English army, and thus England, to be saved, the fervent struggle against the Nazis by the French underground (which not only assisted the DDay planning but the very word "sabotage" comes from the French for what they did to the Nazis) and that France has been a faithful ally of ours in NATO for all these years. Psycho, in the torrent of f*** you comemnst directed towards France did you detect a calm and rational discussion of issues? No, it didn;t hapen in calling Apu a commie, which he is not. As for Baggio: you are such a f***ing dumb f*** that you spent time with French soldiers while in Europe? All the good drugs and access to sex were with the Dutch soldiers. Boy did you pick the wrong crowd to hang with! I just cannot trust your judgments anymore!!!