Controlled Chaos

QUOTE (jasonxctf @ May 5, 2008 -> 09:15 PM) just a side thought... if you are Don Cooper are you not looking for a managerial position next year. what a great job he has done with this team. Give him a couple months and people will be screaming for him to be fired.

I kinda had the Bos. Then at the bottom it was kinda long to the bottom of my neck....so kinda like a mullet....only waaaaayyy cooler..

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 12:32 PM) For the players entire careers reporters in the locker room have been a part of their lives. Right or wrong. Where do we draw the line? Are you serious? Certainly you have a concept of acceptable and unacceptable behavior that will be reported to your fan base? You have got to be smart enough to know that this is not the image that the White Sox or MLB wants to portray. Because you don't know where to draw the line, are you saying there should not be a line? Imagine if the Sox no longer where on ESPN because the team barred the reporters from reporting THE TRUTH. Great PR. Everyone's thresholds are different. Some reporters may be very offended by certain curse words. Some may be offended by certain music...so by certain movies. What you find acceptable others may not. Clealry we can see that by this thread. I think there does need to be a line and after it's drawn then we can see what side positioning a blow up doll with a bat is on. You act like these players did this with the White Sox or MLB's image in mind. They didn't think abotu that. It was done for each other....done for a laugh...done to stay loose and that's all. It had no meaning. It was immature and childish, but it wasn't done for the reporters and it wasn't done for the public and it's a shame reporters felt the need to discuss it. I think the clubhouse is their domain...I think they see it as that...

I see the clubhouse as their house, especially, when they are on the road. Maybe we should restrict what music they listen to. Maybe we should restrict what they can watch on tv. Maybe we should restrict them from gambling or swearing. Maybe we should restrict them from playing pranks on each other. Maybe we should restrict them from giving each other the finger. Maybe we should restirct them from spraying beer and champagne. Where is the line drawn? It's enter at your own risk. That is the players domain. It is not a public place. They are not on the councourse. They are not in a hotel lobby. Nobody can just walk in there. A reporter has to have credentials and they are guests there. If they are offended by seeing a guys joint or naked ass, that is their issue. If they are offended by swearing...that is their issue. If they are offended by a childish immauture display of blow up dolls taking a bat in the arse.....that is their own issue. It is not their place to come into someone else domain and make policy. They are there to report on baseball. What else goes on is none of their business. I think after this next game...when they open the doors to allow the reporters access ...every locker should just have a doll sitting there...because if reporters are going to report on topics besides baseball....they are gonna get about as much info from those dolls, as they are from the players

QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:05 AM) LOL, so people who don't care about this story and fail to see its offense suddenly have become hillbillies? You've made quite the assumption from just a simple incident such as this. It'd be like me calling you some limp wristed Clay Aiken fan because you care about the feelings of women with a simple prank in a profession where it's hardly unexpected. +2 Nice stretch Steve.

QUOTE (Texsox @ May 6, 2008 -> 11:04 AM) Yes, this is a locker room, it is also the area that the EMPLOYER has opened up and wants visitors to come in and report on what they see. The EMPLOYER hopes to parlay that publicity into more profits for them. They use those profits to pay the employees millions of dollars. The image the team portrays, whether accurate or not, also increases or decreases the profits for the team. Players understand this and some perform better in that role (Thome, Payton) then others (Bonds, Thomas) Perhaps this publicity will increase the fan base with people who think blow up dolls are great entertainment. That will really improve the image of Sox fans everywhere. Nobody wants reporters to come in and report on what they see. They are there to get quotes and such on BASEBALL.

QUOTE (fathom @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:47 AM) While I don't think it's a big deal at all, I hope these guys aren't so dense that they didn't expect this to become a big story. Between Ozzie's rant and this, they've done a great job of trying to make people forget about the losing streak. Maybe Ozzie was the one who did it...to deflect attention

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:41 AM) Mannnn, you did not just compare a baseball locker room to Iraq. There's so many reasons that's ridiculous. Give me a break Steve...he was just saying there are different situations for different environments.

QUOTE (tonyho7476 @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:34 AM) So you'll be able to sleep better now? Are they like your prophets? Not really...in fact it's the first time I ever listened to them. I'm just glad they aren't perpetuating the idea this was somehow disrespecting women. But thanks for your comment.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:21 AM) I was referring to some of the comments in this thread. My thoughts on this 'incident' are inline with kap's. Edit: slezak's on Waddle and Silvy right now. She said her problem was with how unprofessional it was. Also, that they defended it instead of admitting a mistake. Glad Waddle and Silvy think it's BS.

QUOTE (chimpy2121 @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:27 AM) Hmmm...did Joe really have a migraine or was he just having too much fun in the clubhouse? hahaha

Do you think the players respect women? I'm not so sure about that. What does doing anything to a blow up doll...have to do with respecting women?? One is alive the other is made of plastic.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 6, 2008 -> 09:02 AM) No, but I think that if my wife were a sports reporter, which I would be very proud of her to be, and that if that happened, she'd be incredibly uncomfortable... and that would piss me the f*** off. I am capable I guess of being human. My bust. A woman doesn't have to feel harassed for it to be harassment. Any sort of discomfort in the workplace shouldn't be tolerated. It's 2008, it's the USA. I guess I just respect women and see them as equals and hope for them to feel as comfortable as any man, no matter where they work. If you have a problem with me respecting women, fine, but to call it "fake outrage" calls into question my integrity. I think there's a few too many meathead kids on this board who just see this as funny and don't understand the ramifications of the Chicago White Sox acting like a bunch of sexually deprived teenagers. I think my wife would say ....you guys are idiots if you think shoving a bat up a blow up dolls ass is gonna make you hit better.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 6, 2008 -> 08:49 AM) You can't compare one activity in the workplace to another. If I intercept electronic communication its called me doing my job. If you do it in accounting you can go to jail. Remember them spraying champagne and drinking beer after the WS. Can you do that at your job, no matter what happened, NO. Its called a unique workplace. That's every Friday at 4:00 for me.

QUOTE (Hawkfan @ May 6, 2008 -> 01:53 AM) whos for bringing blow up dolls to the next home game!? How about a giveaway?

Well if they hired...ahem 'professionals' for the slumpbuster...kinda like a live art show so to speak... I can see some of the manufactured outrage, but they are frickin dolls?

This is a HUGE front page story in the Sun Times. The headline: SOX DOLL BLOWUP found the pic

QUOTE (the People's Champ @ May 5, 2008 -> 01:49 PM) Farmer was complaining about the call at third, in the same inning as well. Said that on the lineout Crede got back to the bag before the runner but the ump still called the runner safe. Anyone see that play? I was surprised that Hawk wasn't saying anything about that play if Farmer was saying it was a blown call. I thought that was pretty much a tie....tough to argue that one

QUOTE (rangercal @ May 5, 2008 -> 10:49 AM) when did they change the schedule to 191 games? hahaha....133....s*** I even did the math on my little calcualtor and then wrote down the wrong thing...maybe I was pounding a couple of cerveza's this morning

QUOTE (shipps @ May 5, 2008 -> 09:51 AM) Not on Cinco De Mayo.

This can be the thread that carries the team to victory!!!!!

Smile peeps. 162 games left..... Was it over when the German's bombed Pearl Harbor? Hell no!

As far as signal quality goes, all HDMI cables are the same. Its a digital signal, so unlike analog cables for composite video, its much more difficult for the signal to be degraded or interfered with. HDMI is a Digital uncompressed signal you really can't improve it that much.......the component and composite cables are analog and are compressed so you would want the best with those. Go with the the cheapies!!............Those cables in retail stores are a rip! I'd go with these....http://www.amazon.com/HDMI-Feet-Super-Resolution-Cable/dp/B0002L5R78

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ May 3, 2008 -> 02:07 PM) if we lose today and the twins win, we're not in 1st place anymore. So what the f*** you smiling for...not like you went ahead and bet on it. All you did was talk s*** that you would bet on it and then not say a word again until they lost 2 games. pfft. Well glad you're happy...enjoy your weekend

QUOTE (stretchstretch @ May 2, 2008 -> 08:33 PM) It's time for a fan reality check about what is a short term fluke and what is REALITY. Dye is not going to rise from the ashes to become any where near the threat he used to be, he got old and slow and cannot hit a 91mph fastball to save his life Konerko exactly the same, each yr of age has made him worse not better and we're expecting more than he's capable of, all at 15M per year, yuck Uribe, I could write a page, he has absolutely not place on an MLB roster, and it reflects SOOO poorly on mgmt that they brought him back BA will be a career .170 hitter, it's just not going to happen people Thome is old and limited, what we see now is who he is today as a player The rest of the team I'm good with, but the Sox are just too dependent on clutch hitting from three marquis players who cannot produce and two that just should not be on the field. It sucks, because this is our 08 team, and that's not going to change for 6 more months minimum Fields need to be on this team everyday, even if it's as the second basemen, CANNOT be any worse, regardless of any other tradeoffs, than having Juan pop up and whiff EVERY SINGLE time a single from him would bring in 1-4 runs!!! Agree with you on Uribe.