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http://thejuice.baseballtoaster.com/ Will Carroll is a writer for Baseball Prospectus. He writes 'Under the Knife,' and has connections to MLB staffs. Baltimore is severely overpaying in this circumstance, and we'd be wise to drop out. As it is, I feel we'd be wise to drop out and let the AL East fight for him. I guess they're still scouting shingo... Told you so.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05199/539578.stm

All of that is great. BUT 20 hours ago, Burnett & Lowell were Red Sox according to the same third hand source. Also, I don't quote anything from opposing teams' MLB.com message boards when it's posted by anyone who can be percieved as a troll. In this case, ANY white sox fan posting on the Red Sox board, is a duck.

QUOTE(peanut33tillman @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 01:07 AM) how credible is this poster any idea??? dude, his handle is 'hawkisgod,' -- MERCY Credibility can't be that good. dag nab it.

Yes. The Nats are not that good. The Fish are sellin' off parts and thinking about firing McKeon. The Phils are treading water, and thinking about selling off parts. The Mets are gonna overspend for someone like Eric Milton, and contuniue to suck.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 12:42 AM) a website devoted to ecto cooler the internet is awesome X-E is devoted to growing up in the 80's, and not growing up anytime since.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 18, 2005 -> 12:35 AM) And your source for this is... The largest newspaper in Chicago. Unfortunately they own the Cubs, and print the wrong pictures along with captions of reputed mobsters, but it's the best we've got around here.

Big League Chew, as has already been stated, is still fairly easy to find. -- In the Chicago area, find a good candy shop; they should have it. Ecto Cooler -- I remember reading on X-E that while it's not being made anymore, Hi-C still makes a reasonable facsimilie. I can't remember what it's called though. It's definately not green though. That was just food coloring. -- http://www.x-entertainment.com/articles/0822/

Aussie, Aussie, Aussie! Oy! Oy! Oy!

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 09:32 PM) Another quick note here, the Red Sox went throught the post-season primarily using only 3 relievers: Timlin/Foulke/Embree (Myers was used as a LOOGY a couple of times). QUOTE(upnorthsox @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 10:04 PM) Boston played 3 extra inning games in the playoffs last yr, they also had Arroyo knocked out in the 3rd inning of a game too. They used everyone including Pedro as a reliever. Btw, their pen sans Foulke was horrid in the playoffs and that should've cost them(and almost did) but they had an O that could score against anyone. Since we don't have their O I sure as hell wouldn't want to emulate their pen. I think these two answered each other... It doesn't look like we're getting a big bat for this team. The most we can hope for is a more useful super-utility guy. -- They're not going to change the complexion of the offense too much. Since we can't match the offense that Boston had the last season -- And probably don't have the dominant arms in the rotation that Florida had two years ago -- Our best chance at this may be to emulate the 2002 Angels. -- Decent starting staff, lights out pen, good offense. All of this assumes we make the playoffs, and that being said, our best way to the playoffs is to not subtract any of the key pieces from the current team. That includes Crede, Uribe, Count and El Duque. The best, and quite possibly most economical, area to upgrade are the bullpen and a utility guy. That may be just enough to carry us to the promised land. And if it doesn't, the cupboard won't be too bare and the payroll won't be too bloated, for the Sox to reload for next season.

And the Clippers too....

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) If getting a guy like Free/Vizquel and than Wagner cost the Sox a few of their top prospects, so be it. Exactly. I think, or at least I hope, KW feels the same way. If you have to 'overpay' to get the right guy for your team, so be it. This is it. This is our chance. Go for it.

I just can't see anyone on the market who fits this bill. Schmidt and Burnett are the only names that I've heard so far, and both carry too steep a price tag for me, and are unpredictable. These are the two moves that need to be made. Solidify the pen. Shorten the game. Add a player who takes pressure off of Crede/Uribe. (Vizquel & Freel are the 2 guys I pursue hard) I'd give up anyone(except Young) on the farm to make these to moves work. -- McCarthy can go to San Fran. He'd be more likely to succeed there. I'd be happy for him. My ideal line-up for the stretch run would subtract Willie and add Vizquel; or Subtract Timo and (Willie or Ozuna) adding Freel and Gload. In the pen, I'd trim the dead weight of Shingo and Viz, and add Jenks (if he's ready) and Wagner. That's a playoff ready roster... Can you imagine a pen of Cotts/Marte/Wagner/Pollitte/Hermanson/Jenks?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 07:23 PM) I would trade Honel for him, no more than that though. They could have had Honel for nothing a couple of months ago. They're not going to give up something for him after an additional month of suckitude in AA.

QUOTE(Antonio Osuna @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 07:07 PM) Also, remembering what you guys did to the guy who owned the anti-Hawk domain: don't worry about my ownership of fireguillen.com. It's set to expire at the end of this season and I have no intention of renewing it. At this point, I'm pretty close to buying signozzieforlife.com or perhaps ozzieforgovernor.com (he's a US citizen now, isn't he? He will be soon, anyway. Watch out Blaggs) you should hold on to it. Someone's going to buy it for the express purpose of being a douche. You have the best weapon to stop them.

Remember Youngstown?

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 05:11 PM) BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm gonna make this sign: Jermaine Dye- .263, 19 HR, 47 RBI, 8 SB, $4 Million. Magg$ Ordonez- .254, 3 HR, 13 RBI, 0 SB, $7.2 Million. Boo the hell out of him. I'm gonna make this sign: Jermaine Dye- .263, 19 HR, 47 RBI, 8 SB, $4 Million. $10M Magg$ Ordonez- .254, 3 HR, 13 RBI, 0 SB, $7.2 Million. $75M

I guess Haeger is the shizz then.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 04:50 PM) I guess the Haegermeister is just too f***ing cool to have someone hit for him. The Lookouts are the Cinci AA affiliate. They bat the pitcher when at home.

I'd go Kyle Farnsworth on KW if he trade Young for Redman.

QUOTE(forrestg @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) 40 man implications? YOu wouldn't give a guy who hits with power and average a chance. When we go to 40 man the sox will bring him up if he's doing well. I could give a damn what his past performance was but if he's turned the corne bring him up. The sox are the slowest when it comes to trying out their minor league talent.. We end up sending them in a deal somewhere else instead of getting the benefit of their play.. Yeah hits for power and average, with a .300 OBP at AAA and a 12:1 K/BB ratio. :rolly: The 40-man implications I was speaking of relate to Daigle never, ever, cracking the Sox 40-man roster. If he is put on it, somebody else has to come off of it. Joe Borchard is the only player who's a forgone conclusion to lose his 40-man spot after this season. But you've got guys like Chris Young who need to be protected next year. Putting Daigle on the 40-man over guys like Young is something the Pirates would do. See Chris Shelton.

QUOTE(MnSoxFan @ Jul 17, 2005 -> 09:16 AM) I would have to disagree with Valido where you have him, I am not sure he and Young are not the 2 prospects we need to make sure we hold onto. I would have him in top 5 for sure, and likely #2 behind Young at this time, at least in terms of value. As far as guys I'm not trading at the deadline, Young and Valido are 1 & 2. That doesn't mean they won't be available this time next year. I'm just not interested in giving them up right now, as they appear to have the most upside of any of our prospects, and really seem to be coming into their own. I have no problem parting with McCarthy, Anderson, Gio, Tracey, Fields, Sweeney, etc. as long as the return is decent and a good fit for our team. I don't know if I can say the same about Young and Valido right now.

Leo Daigle -- No contending team should ever have him anywhere near the active roster. Let's not forget the 40-man implications a drug induced Daigle move would create. --- I don't want Randa. If you're going to pick somebody up from the Reds whose name doesn't rhyme with 'done' than it better ryhme with "F'real?"

Red Sox appear O's main rival in pursuit of Burnett