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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Not as egregious as Jerry collecting generational wealth on beer sales tonight.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Two more times through the order for a no-hitter. People saying they shouldn't start Giolito before the deadline, I'm not starting Burger at 2B or Eloy anywhere before the deadline. On August 2 they should shut down Yoan, Crochett and Liam for the season if they aren't moved, IL Eloy, Vaughn and anyone else playing hurt.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Congratulations Jake Burger on your first play at second base.
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Moncada
Moncada stated today he is still hurt, is not 100%, but can better play through it than when he was initially placed on the IL. Bottom line is he likely needs surgery or several months of rest, but the Sox are going to Sox through the remaining 10 meaningless weeks and then do what they should have done in May.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
He is not a starter, but he is a number two.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Perfect place to ship Hahn and Getz.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Rocky Wirtz - Dead Michael Kopech Future Pitching Expectations - Dead
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Rocky Wirtz gone, Jerry Reinsdorf remains.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
I really hope he went to an outside doctor because the Sox staff is incompetent at best. So many players tried to muddle through players the past few years (Grandal, Robert) which any other competent and forward thinking organization would have shut the same players down and provided the correct course of treatment from the start.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Fangraph's fWAR Starting Pitchers Cubs: Hendricks 0.9 & Stroman 2.5 over Kopech -0.2 and Lynn 0.6 Bullpen White Sox: White Sox rank 8th overall across The MLB over the Chicago Cubs 28th Tie: Grandal and Gomes both have a 0.6 fWAR. First Base: Bellinger 2.8 over Vaughn 0.0. Second Base: Horner 2.4 over Burger 1.0 Third Base: Moncada 0.2 over Mastrobuoni 0.0 Shortstop: Swanson 3.0 over Anderson -0.5 Leftfield: Happ 1.9 over Benintendi 1.0 Centerfield: Robert 4.0 over Tauchman 1.0 Rightfield: Suzuki 1.0 over Colas -0.6 Designated Hitter: Morel 1.0 over Jimenez 0.7
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Fire Rick Hahn
Yes, he did hide ala Ryan Pace. Pedro Grifol took the press conference instead, because he honors his responsibilities unlike the worthless Reinsdorf crony hire. Pedro said the following: "This is on me. I said we had high expectations and we failed to meet them. I am disappointed and there is no excuse for it." "We are addressing all of the components. We are trying to finish strong and get ready for next season." "I am having difficult conversations with players, but I'm not going to throw them under the bus publicly." "Whether it's personnel changes or cultural changes or whatever the case may be, it's going to happen." Fire Rick Hahn, NOW!
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
All I want is Kopech to get three outs.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Does not compute. June .146 BA .200 OBP .593 OPS July .197 BA .279 OBP .738 OPS Remillard .305 BA .367 OBP .769
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Cubs have four starters 2.0 + bWAR. First I’ve heard of Tauchman (1.4). IL’d Madrigal (1.0) higher than all Sox beyond Robert (Benintendi 1.0 is second). Hahn is worse than Ryan Pace and Gar Forman, the nut low.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Would say the best defensive alignment today is C Zavala 1B Grandal 2B Remillard SS Anderson 3B Moncada LF Benintrndi CF Robert RF Colas Not sure if Eloy will ever be healthy enough to play OF or 1B regularly. Hahn should have placed Vaughn on the IL last week and played Eloy DH and Burger 1B through the deadline, move one or both at the deadline. Move Tim and Yoan next deadline or this off-season with both playing for FA contracts for max value.
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This Day In Sox History...July 25
Dude.
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How do the Sox move forward now that tanking isn't an option?
FIP 2.35. White Sox Defense.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
This has Rick Hahn written all over it. Perhaps a dash of Kenny and a lump of Jerry. The Sox brain trust.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Bunting every at bat toward Lynn Burger Vaughn would result in much success, even more Lance Lynn anger. Perhaps Lynn would retire after the game like La Roche, likely would sprain his knee and/or ankle by the second inning if he bothered trying to field more than one or two bunts.
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7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
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Hahn always likes to pull these bullshit moves before a start of a home series so he has something positive to talk about. Did the same rushing Cancer / Tommy John Liam up to pitch on Memorial Day. Hahn is such a worthless hack.- How do the Sox move forward now that tanking isn't an option?
Liam likely needs Tommy John surgery and out until 2025. Wouldn't be surprised if Crochet is out until 2024. Think the best case scenario if they try to compete is 85 wins in 2024 if a lot of things go right / above realistic expectations, Rotation Cease regains his #1 form, Kopech can stay healthy and provide 150 4.00 ERA innings. Hahn brings in 3-4 lottery starter tickets (Maeda, Keller, Flaherty, Wacha, Cueto), 1 - 2 pan out like Cueto. Can scrape together a decent starter out of what exists in the organization. Sox surprise and sign a good plus starter, say Stroman likes Chicago and is OK with Tony gone. Bullpen Somehow Liam doesn't need TJS, can pitch well in 2024, Santos can pitch in the 8th or 9th role. Graveman isn't moved & can perform decent in a 7th-8th role. Pitching for FA, so may be OK. Middleton returns or someone like him, Bummer pitches well (his 2.35 FIP is outstanding). Grab / graduate a few more. Starting Lineup Anderson & Moncada play well for their upcoming free agent contracts Burger, Eloy, Vaughn somehow provide 1.5-2.0 + WAR seasons. Colas can figure out ML Pitching and provide a 1 + WAR. Benintendi's hand is fully healthy, he can hit 5 + HRs and be a 1.5 WAR player. Robert continues to progress with a 5 + WAR season. Sox score a lottery ticket at 2B, say Kolten Wong, or perhaps get serious and try for a Merrifield / Frazier FA signing and they actually perform well. Tucker Barnhart type and Zazala form a quality defensive / no hit catcher duo. Like I said, a s%*# load has to go right and you're looking at a likely 85 ish win ceiling, but that is what would need to happen if they Sox want to try one more season before decent prospects start to emerge in 2025-2026.- 7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
I agree with what you are saying, but Ohtani is also a Top 5 MLB player, so would be the exception. Not to mention the financial revenue the Angels receive from merchandizing, advertising and significant fan interest with him on the team far and above any other player. That's why I suggested if they dump him / not try and extend his contract they may as well dump Trout who will be in decline phase for several years of a quarter billion dollar contract which will saddle them with limited options similar to that awful Pujols contract, though Trout will likely accumulate more than the 12.8 WAR Pujols did the rest of the way. Shedding Trout's deal would put them in much better position to sign Ohtani, who is 28 and should still have several good years left in him. They still have Rendon ($115M) on the books, perhaps couple Rendon and Ohtani to free up options to sign Ohtani in the offseason or start from scratch with a clean slate and do a proper rebuild if teams aren't giving you enough prospects for 2 months of Ohtani. Current Angel Commitments: 2024 (7 Players) $119M 2025 (5 Players) $96M 2026 (2 Players) $77M 2027 - 2030 (Trout $37M per year) Not as bad as the Padres, who also will never win anything with their "stars". 2024 (12 Players) $155M 2025 (9 Players) $155M 2026 (8 Players) $133M 2027 (7 Players) $146M 2028 (Bogaerts, Darvish, Machado, Tatis, Cronenworth) $111M 2029 (Bogaerts, Machado, Tatis, Cronenworth) $108M 2030 (Bogaerts, Machado, Tatis, Cronenworth) $108M 2031 - 2033 (Bogaerts, Machado, Tatis) $96M 2034 - 2036 (Tatis) $36M- 7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
Most deadline trades are made to dump salary, not pick up prospects to substantially change a team’s fortunes. Sure back in the day people would overpay for short term chances, and there are teams like the Padres that overpay for everything including Soto, but guys the Cubs, Sox or most other teams have aren’t going to bring much back, it’s more to purge salary. You need to sell a Top 5-10 MLB player to get a huge return. Peak Sale (Age 28) was the only player the Sox sold off under Jerry that met this criteria. Robert would be borderline at this point, more for future potential Top 5-10 MLB status. Cubs don’t have a player like that to sell. They aren’t going to get players that will substantially move the needle moving those two (Stroman Bellinger) and or anyone else.- 7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT
I hope it gives Jerry diarrhea, perhaps coupled with the hiccups. Let him feel what he has wrought on Sox Fandom and mankind. - 7/25 Game Thread: Cubs @ White Sox 7:10CT