Everything posted by South Side Hit Men
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Andrew Vaughn and Eloy: what's the plan here?
They would get far less than Jake Eder. They would never get anyone close to Kopech's ability. Jake Burger is a far superior player to Eloy, at a far superior contract. There were rumors after 2021 the Marlins were interested in Eloy and Yermin for a starting pitcher, possibly Pablo Lopez, but Hahn's team was on the floor, and he was satisfied with several DH/1B clogging up the 13 position players on his roster.
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After JR
Celebrated the day Richie Daley finished in dead last in the 2016 Olympic Bid. The city would have lost billions, literally would have had to declared bankruptcy by now. It has only been kept afloat by massive infusion of "COVID" funds which have come to an end.
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2023 Division Series
#1 2023 Postseason Priority - Jose Abreu World Series Championship & World Series MVP #2 2023 Postseason Priority - Rob Manfred DUI arrest if he doesn't have a paid driver at all times. #3 2023 Postseason Priority - If Houston doesn't make it, than the lowest TV Ratings Possible (Texas or Minnesota vs. Arizona). Come on Wegner, you're better than that. His playoff OPS has been higher than his regular season OPS each of the three seasons his team made it. It's not his fault Jerry and Hahn surrounded him with half ass to mostly garbage rosters in Chicago during his prime seasons. Jose Abreu Postseason OPS: 2020 .857 Playoffs vs. .831 MVP Regular Season 2021 .857 Playoffs vs. .824 Regular Season 2023 1.058 YTD Playoffs vs. .680 Regular Season
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Astros part ways with Assistant GM, Farm Director
Jerry turns 88 the first 2024 Spring Training weekend.
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Garfien podcast focusing on TA...
The second place Tigers and Manager A. J. Hinch is a much more attractive landing spot for veteran Free Agents looking to play on a competitive team this offseason than coming here. I don't want any significant contracts added until they have a dozen plus solid players and they are looking to add the final touches. Hopefully there will be new ownership and FO to make quality decisions. Would be nice to shed Benintendi so a new regime has a clean slate when they take over.
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
And he does it again!! Pito MVP!!
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
Pito is money each October! Suck It Twins!!
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After JR
The White Sox have multiple provisions in their lease which impact city, county and state tax revenue. https://www.isfauthority.com/assets/management-agreement-with-all-amendments2.pdf https://www.fitchratings.com/research/us-public-finance/fitch-affirms-illinois-sports-facilities-auth-bonds-at-bb-outlook-stable-30-06-2022 The Sox and their landlord does not pay real estate tax to Cook County or the City of Chicago. The Sox are credited back up to 50% of all current and future City and County sales and entertainment taxes levied on tickets and other stadium revenues based on attendance. The 2% IHSA hotel tax levied across all of Illinois is remitted back to the IHSA, is split 50% State / 50% City of the $10M annual subsidies. This doesn't include the $15M and growing annually the ISFA must pay Jerry for stadium maintenance and capital improvements. https://www.nbcchicago.com/investigations/taxpayers-still-owe-640m-on-2002-soldier-field-renovation/2981068/ Even more egregious than the Sox deal is the fact the ISFA borrowed $398M to renovate Soldier Field, have made 20 years of bond payments and now owes $640M, paying down $15M in debt but accruing over $256M in interest over this period. And now these assholes want to move to AH. https://www.isfauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2022-ISFA-Audit-ANNUAL-REPORT-FORMAT.pdf In addition, the state transferred $20M in additional funds from the General Fund to cover the shortfall after the Governor and Mayor lock downed businesses including hotels over the past few years.
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After JR
Does the City get more or less the approximate $6 spent for $1 in return on the White Sox that it reportedly received from the NASCAR Debacle? NASCAR = At least $3.5M spent for $620K in return. 2024 was extended in secret with no Aldermanic input per the article below. https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-cost-of-2023-nascar-chicago-street-race-20231009-fzjifp3hlfdx7h3ldate2pe6f4-story.html
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
Joe Kelly entered his first game of the playoffs, and is lone former White Sox to play Monday. Monday Stats Joe Kelly Dodgers 1 2/3 IP. 2 H, 1 BB, 0 ER, 3 K Nice to see both American League Division Games will be broadcast on OTA television today. Go Pito! Cumulative Division Series Stats: Hitters Marcus Semien Texas 2-10, 1 BB, 1 RBI, 1 R, 3 K Jose Abreu Houston 1-7, 1 BB, 1 RBI Pitchers Craig Kimbrel Phillies 1 IP, 1 Save Joe Kelly Dodgers 1 2/3 IP. 2 H, 1 BB, 0 ER, 3 K Dane Dunning Texas 2 IP, 2 H, 1 BB, 1 ER, 1 HR, 1 K, 1 Win Did Not Play: James McCann Baltimore; Lance Lynn Dodgers
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2023 Division Series
Astro Nights Ricky Bobby Carley Bobby Cal Naughton Jr. Walker Texas Ranger Chip
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2023 Division Series
https://www.si.com/mlb/astros/news/lucas-giolito-claims-all-teams-besides-houston-astros-were-cheating-world-series
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MLB Trade Rumors - Chicago White Sox Offseason Outlook - by Tim Dierkes
A new owner can do a lot. Continued Reinsdorf involvement beyond Jerry’s tenure will be pretty much the same as now, may as well move on.
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
Funny, NFL airs their games on free television, has 100 million Super Bowl viewers, with any regular game curbstomping the World Series. NBA surpassed MLB as well both nationally and globally, despite baseball having a much stronger head start. Funny, I also don't remember fedoras at games in the 1970s, 1980s or pre strike 1990s. Jerry had far less an influence in owner circles within the NBA, nobody would put up with his bullshit like they did during the strike and before. MLB is dying, largely because of the weak ass stewardship of the game, not the game or players who continue to entertain.
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After JR
God help us all if they don't sell the White Sox. 43 years and counting has been brutal enough.
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MLB Trade Rumors - Chicago White Sox Offseason Outlook - by Tim Dierkes
You keep excluding more and more people from society, via older people or people who don't have credit or apple type phones, and you keep losing fan interest over time. What, to profit off of selling your customer phone data? Pathetic. You lose a lot of money just on time alone in terms of concession sales paying a vendor or stand a $5 or $10 bill versus swiping cards and wasting an extra 20-30 seconds plus per transaction. Also, the television feed is already there with the cable TV production, it's a dual broadcast, just with Spanish announcers as well (or simulcast announcers from the cable feed for Sunday English WGN games). There is zero extra cost beyond Spanish announcers and a few people to work that feed.
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
I dropped cable shortly after the last Larry Sanders show, so about 25 years ago. Many people are cutting it now. When sports shifted to cable, including baseball, you lower viewership now, which the owners were fine with because they were making more now short term leeching off subscription cable carriage costs from the majority of people who don't even consume the product. However, over time, this shift from widely available to a shrinking fanbase and shrinking general interest grows exponentially, which is why the World Series has lost 2/3 of it's viewership over a few decades despite the fact there are 40M more people. Abysmal to criminal oversight over the game has pressed the pedal to the medal (1994, steroids, watered down playoffs, interleague garbage which destroyed any interest in the ASG, etc.).
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
Not as good a second playoff day for ex White Sox or their teams. Teams Off: Lance Lynn & Joe Kelly Dodgers; Craig Kimbrel Phillies Did Not Play: James McCann Baltimore; Dane Dunning Texas Results of both American League Game 2 Marcus Semien Texas 2-5; 1 BB, 1 RBI, 1 Run. Jose Abreu Houston 0-4
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
Nobody gives a rats ass about college basketball beyond those betting brackets. The entire regular CBB 30 plus game season is meaningless. College Football and MLB were the lone two sports where the regular season meant something, and the whore scum that run both sports ruined both. American population has increased by 55%, and all three sports cited have showed significant viewer interest over this period. The more each sport expanded their playoffs, the less people are interested. American Population: 1970 213M 2000 291M 2020 331M (Up over 55%). Despite huge population shifts, every single sport has far less people watching today than before playoffs were watered down. College Football Championship: Mythical National Championship Games were higher rated than BCS, and both higher rated than the expanded CFB Playoffs. 2023 at Historic Lows. College Basketball Championship: 1970s 25-35M 1980s 25-32M 1990s 26-34M 2000s 17-24M 2010s 16-28M 2020s 17-19M World Series: 1970s 29-44M 1980s 25-42M 1990s 20-36M 2000s 13-25M 2010s* 13-23M 2020s 10-12M Note *: 2010s single high was a single outlier because the Chicago Cubs won their first World Series in over a century. All others were under 20M average, most in the 13-14M range.
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2023 Division Series
All they had to do was eat a few contracts, not give up prospects. Scumbag owner claimed he is broke, and also don't expect this core to last once they have to pay them. What a corrupt pathetic sport. https://www.thescore.com/mlb/news/2696277
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MLB Trade Rumors - Chicago White Sox Offseason Outlook - by Tim Dierkes
Actually, Chris Sale destroyed the 1976 throwback uniforms, not the 1983 uniforms. https://globalnews.ca/news/2845613/white-sox-chris-sales-destruction-of-throwback-jerseys-joins-list-of-ugly-uniform-incidents/ #TeamDrakeLaRoche
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MLB Trade Rumors - Chicago White Sox Offseason Outlook - by Tim Dierkes
A smart likable owner can reverse four plus decades of decline under Reinsdorf and recapture or exceed a 50% Chicago fan base. At minimum a weekly Sunday game on WGN TV (dual simulcast with the cable channel), plus the entire 162 game schedule on WSNS (Telemundo) or WGBO (Univision) to regain exposure in the Chicago market, as other non televised teams lose relevancy in a cord cutting environment. Everybody is welcome back to enjoy games. Cash accepted at ticket windows & concession stands, paper tickets issued by the White Sox (season tickets mailed or box office in person) accepted in addition to phone tickets. Paper print at home are not accepted to prevent duplicate / fraud issues. Commit to staying at Comiskey Park with a 2-3 decade lease extension, pledge to use a portion of the windfall profits with the extended lease to: Sponsor White Sox youth leagues throughout Chicago (CPD ballparks + Suburbs including equipment and or league / umpire costs). Restore Veeck era school tickets for students (perfect attendance and/or A or B level grades). Make parking (all games) and concessions (at minimum, rotating select weeknight specials) affordable. Properly staff the stadium and security to prevent / intercede quickly to halt the violent brawls and gun violence plaguing the stadium this season. Rename the ballpark Comiskey Park or White Sox Park, can still have a sponsor just underneath the marque like Wintrust proposed "Wintrust Field at Comiskey Park", which was the high bid rejected by Jerry Reinsdorf in scam for kickback payments from the sad current down arrow sponsor. Ownership, management and announcers stop taunting White Sox fans or former players as scum or worse. Owner hires baseball professionals to make baseball decisions, ownership does not micromanage or intercede. Hire a baseball VP of Marketing to cater to all Chicagoans, not just aging boomers. Host a 1983 Uniform Demolition Night.
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
If there was a true round robin schedule, that would be fine. There are two separate leagues, so one of two formats are fair and balanced. Also, expand to 28 player rosters (14 position players + 14 Pitchers) regardless of number of teams to ensure MLBPA buy-in. Divisional Format (1969-1993 Two Divisions) Single League (1901-1968 Format) Schedule: Expand or contract two teams to reach equal number of league teams. Interleague = All Star Game + World Series Two Fourteen Team Leagues (13 League Opponents X 12 Games = 156 Games) Two Sixteen Team Leagues (7 Division Opponents X 12 Games = 84) plus (8 Opposite Division Opponents X 10 Games = 80) for 164 Games Division Format: Expansion: Montreal & Nashville AL East: Baltimore, Boston, Cleveland, Detroit, Nashville, New York, Tampa, Toronto. AL West: Chicago, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, Minnesota, Oakland, Texas, Seattle. NL East: Atlanta, Cincinnati, Miami, Montreal, New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington. NL West: Arizona, Chicago, Colorado, Los Angeles, Milwaukee, Saint Louis, San Diego, San Francisco.
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MLB Trade Rumors - Chicago White Sox Offseason Outlook - by Tim Dierkes
Gavin is one of the longest tenured White Sox on the squad at year end. 10/1/23 40 Man Roster Most White Sox Games Played: (White Sox Seasons) 895 Tim Anderson (8) 727 Yoan Moncada (7) 436 Eloy Jimenez (5) 413 Andrew Vaughn (3) 367 Luis Robert Junior (4) 356 Yasmani Grandal (4) 296 Gavin Sheets (3) 289 Aaron Bummer (7) 155 Elvis Andrus (2) 151 Andrew Benintendi (1) 132 Liam Hendriks (3) 128 Trayce Thompson (3) 123 Dylan Cease (5) 108 Matt Foster (3) 103 Michael Kopech (4) 86 Romy Gonzalez (3) 83 Jimmy Lambert (4) 75 Oscar Colas (1) 72 Garrett Crochet (3) 67 Tanner Banks (2) 63 Lenyn Sosa (2) 60 Gregory Santos (1) 54 Zach Remillard (1) 42 Adam Haseley (2) 38 Bryan Shaw (1) 34 Carlos Perez (2) 33 Clint Frazier (1) 26 Jesse Scholtens (1) 24 Korey Lee (1) 24 Mike Clevinger (1) 21 Lane Ramsey (1) 19 Touki Toussaint (1) 16 Sammy Peralta (1) 14 Davis Martin (1) 9 Declan Cronin (1) 8 Edgar Navarro (1) 7 Luis Patino (1) 6 Deivi Garcia (1) 5 Jose Urena (1) 5 Yohan Ramirez (1) 5 Tyler Naquin (1) 3 Nicholas Padilla (1) 1 Jose Rodriguez (1) 0 Bryan Ramos (0)
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White Sox 2023 Playoff Thread
No, 1903, 1905-1993 baseball was strong, a large number of people watched the playoffs in person and on TV, and only division or league champions were eligible for the World Series. Jose had some adventures on the basepaths, Dusty says he is playing with a lump on his leg. Pito is my rooting interest this postseason. Watching Lance Lynn give up 7 runs in 1 2/3 would be a nice consolation prize if Houston can't take it. It's stupid Houston would need to beat Texas again, after beating them over 162 games. All North American professional and collegiate playoffs are garbage.