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If we can afford to pay Edwin that kinda money you'd think we'd make it happen to keep Konerko. Thing is, even if Paulie drops off offensively the next 3 years, he's a human vacuum on scoops at first and doesn't have too bad of range either.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 18, 2010 -> 12:10 AM) Won't help when they play the Yankees. True, but we seem to be OK against the Bosox and Yankees, except for that road trip two seasons ago in September. We get up for them. We need some former Twins to at least wake up our dugout or shake our dugout out of fear when we play Minnesota. Can't you already picture all those doubles and gappers the Twins will rake against us again next year already?

I put Beckham but the verdict is still out on whether he'll be a star. I think he's already proven enough that he'll have a Durham-length career at second for the Sox. Should pencil him in for double digit years at 2B. Is he a star? We shall see.

I still think Ankiel would be good n cheap if he could stay healthy. Also DeJesus is finally available if we wanna go that route. This might sound dumb, but I'd like to acquire a Twin or 2 for karma's sake. We need some former Twins on the team.

QUOTE (gatnom @ Oct 16, 2010 -> 08:25 AM) He actually had 2 days off, but Juan is the kind of guy who doesn't like to sit. He played in every single game from 2003-2007, and he even averages 162 games a year for his career. I really dislike his game, but it's hard not to like his attitude. Also, people may look at his .341 OBP and say he had a decent year, but this was also inflated by being hit a little more than twice as much as he ever had before in his career. If you use his average number of hit by pitches (9) instead of the 21 he had this season, his OBP is just barely .330, which coupled with his slugging percentage puts him at an OPS of 646. Juan Pierre is not a good baseball player, and a terrible fit for our stadium. He may not like to sit, but I would like him to sit once in a while. I hear what you are saying though. I like his attitude, too. I like the guy personality wise. I probably would like him more if he was batting ninth for some reason. Of course I like Teahen personality wise as well, but not the player. The post about Juan's slow starts was informative as well. We can't afford Juan and Lexi to stink it up the first five weeks next season. They got to figure a way to get off to better starts. Same with the majoirty of our guys who were .200ish for so long early on.

QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ Oct 16, 2010 -> 09:38 AM) As long as they get a split it'll be a long series. I am expecting them to split. They totally had this game won. Should they lose tomorrow PANIC MODE. The Yankees lineup is so sick. They just keep coming back. Good call. And nice bounceback by Texas, even at home. Hopefully the Rangers' Lee will whup the Yankees in NY. That would be cool to go up 2-1 after the lousy Game One implosion. GO TEXAS!

QUOTE (joeynach @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 07:34 PM) The one thing I didnt like about Pierre this year was Ozzie's use of him. I can think of two things in particular. One being that as an aging veteran I think Ozzie needed to rest him a few more days. Before we even got to Sept I had a gut feeling that Pierre would begin to wear down a bit due to the immense load on his legs and body over the first 5 months, and I was right, he hit something like .232 in Sept. Second, I didnt like how Ozzie treated him like any other sox hitter. Meaning he never really realized oh wait this guy is incapable of hitting the ball to the warning track like everyone else did. That is why you would see LF for other teams playing shallow to take away his looping line drive. But Ozzie would still do dumb things for Pierre. Like with no outs and Alexi or whoever on 2B he would have Beckham bunt him over 3B with 1 out for Pierre. And Im asking why. How are you supposed to manufacture that run with a sac fly to a hitter that is incapable of hitting the ball out in even a little league park, he has no ability to hit a deep fly ball so why are you doing this. Those are my big grips with Pierre and the use of Pierre. Other than that he showed solid D, a decent OBP, and excellent capacity to steal bases. It was also nice to see a good base-runner out there, not Pods and his ability to get picked off anywhere. For the record I agree with this post 100 percent. For the life of me I couldn't understand why Juan never had a day off? Oz loves to give guys days off. WTF? Great great post.

This may sound dumb as well as many of my other posts, but ... Can the Rangers bounce back from this? This is one, tough loss.

Am I dumb for thinking Damon would be a good addition to our team?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Oct 15, 2010 -> 04:30 PM) Can I ask why? Why not? He's obviously a good baseball guy if the Brews want to speak to him. Great suggestion of subbing Omar for Joey. I'd be OK with Omar playing 50 games next year as well, but please not as a starter.

Not to flame, but we have Edwin Jackson now. We don't have the guy we traded for him. So no sense looking back. It's time to hope Edwin is a dominant pitcher. He showed flashes this year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 02:17 PM) The thing is, there would be just as much complaining if we had held on to Hudson and Hudson pitched like he had the first few starts of the season. Maybe, but I think reasonable people realize or should realize not everybody comes up and dominates right away. It's impossible to hold an argument about Hudson anyway, because way too many people will just dispel any NL pitcher's performance as the fact it's happening in the NL. So it's an argument not worth getting into. Too many people consider the NL a pathetic league and they simply write off performances there as flukes.

I'd prefer Hudson but I don't want to look back any more. Jackson is here and I hope he has a great year.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 14, 2010 -> 05:05 AM) The only thing that was wrong with the Juan Pierre deal was that it was made with the intentions of having Juan Pierre leadoff, when in all reality, he should be hitting 9th. The White Sox gave up 2 borderline arms in Ely and Link. I kind of agree with this. Bat him ninth and I wouldn't be so against him I guess. I wonder why I devalue a guy with 70 SBs so much. I just don't like him much.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 11, 2010 -> 04:40 PM) So in otherwords it is pretty universal that fan bases think they have the worst manager in their game. Yes. Yes. Yes.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Oct 12, 2010 -> 09:29 PM) You mean 2001 when KW took over? And yeah, caulfield likes to remind us plenty that we're in the top 5 or so in games won since then. Only numbers that matter for me are 2/10. Our playoff ratio in a division that doesn't feature the Yankees or Red Sox. I'm really surprised we weren't able to dominate our division for years after winning the WS. I really thought we were "built" to do so. Years later color me disappointed and surprised that it's the Twins that have the winning the division thing going for them more than us. Of course a lot of people also thought the Bears would continue to roll after '85. I like the reloading rather than rebuilding. The article mentions our starting pitching staff. On paper ... it's awesome, phenomenal, etc. In reality it has to start dominating ... at least in divisional games. Our great staff on paper sucks on many occasions. Now that Thome flamed in the playoffs and we can calm down about this year's awful DH by committee demanded by Ozzie, maybe the team can rework that position and perhaps add some youth somewhere? It's alarming Ozzie wants Omar back. If he comes back, Oz won't be able to resist making him the starter, not bench guy/tutor. And Juan? Yeah on paper he had a B season, but are any of you excited about Juan? The other scary thing is our team really had a good record this year. That's kind of scary cause we finished six back of Minnie and we were never in the wildcard hunt. I guess we all can keep cheering and hoping. But the question marks remain huge as the Sox try to beat the playoff choking Twins and the 3 mediocres in our division. Didn't you all think we'd be pretty dominant in the Central after winning the WS rather than getting beat down by the Twinks many seasons?

I've been out of town and not had time to check anywhere so I wonder if the Twins take is they had a great season or if people in Minnietown are furious. I know the Yankees should beat the Twins but this postseason ineptitude of theirs is embarrassing. I guess they can mock us and say they own us, but still. Either the Twins are chokers or this truly proves money buys most pennants.

Twins are the laughingstock of baseball tonight. They just are.

I just don't see how our fear of the Twins could continue after this. The Twins really are the laughingstock of baseball right now. Swept by NY again?? Please. If the White Sox are ever intimidated by these guys again and have the kind of record they had against the Twins this year, then even as an Ozzie/KW apologist I agree heads have to roll. The Twins are a laughingstock because of their postseason flameouts. There's no other way to put it. Too bad Twins. You got owned. Yes you owned us, but this has to be as painful as the Sox's pathetic effort against the Twins this year. Twins fans must be pissed/embarrassed. Or are they blaming the loss of Morneau which really is a copout.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 08:20 PM) Um, I'm kinda hoping Thome gets a World Series ring finally? Am I going to get strung up here for that? With Twins out, I'm kinda rooting for Texas. Don't know why. But then again, root for the Yankees? Gulp. QUOTE (T R U @ Oct 7, 2010 -> 08:39 PM) Yeah, its pathetic for anyone that is a Sox fan to be rooting for the Twins to win the World Series.. If you like the way their organization is run so much, go become a Twins fan.. I thought I would root for the Twins because of Thome but hell, he's not a relative of mine or anything. I just can't do it either. But I could see some people wanting Minnesota to win because of Thome. Thome has to be wondering WTF after the Twins played so well almost the entire second half (except their pathetic performance the week or so after clinching).

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 01:33 AM) I guess there's some things that get exploited more in the post season. They really don't have an ace and Thome is their long ball threat. QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 01:51 AM) They were the best team in baseball since the ASB. When teams get hot they also cool off. So their timing could be off plus they are few missing pieces away from a World Series. It's amazing they were hot the whole second half, the entire way, until they clinched. Then they finally sucked and the Sox went 9-2 down the stretch to finish only six back. I know that has nothing to do with their current faceplant, but why the f*** couldn't Minnesota have their cooling off period at some other point the second half. Unless a miracle happens, Minnesota is toast. I guess their fans can blame the loss of Morneau but they've been w/out him a long time.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 8, 2010 -> 01:10 AM) Twins/Yankees is the same as White Sox/Twins, only the Twins switch roles. Exactly. 100 percent true. How many times have we led Minnesota 3-0 in a game like Game One and then had one bad inning and trailed 4-3 and had it be over. Rivera gets 4 outs in the ninth, shrugs off the bad call by the ump. If that happened to the Sox vs. Minnesota, Thome would have homered, not made an out to make the fourth out of the inning. 11 straight postseason losses. If they get beat by NY again, do they just shrug it off AGAIN and dominate the Central next year? It's kind of laughable really, but like you said, just as laughable at how we can't beat them. Baseball equal funny game. That all said I find I can't cheer for Minnesota. I hope they get eliminated ASAP. Then they can start devising ways to win our division again next year and faceplant if indeed they win it again. I wonder if Minnesota fans are mad at Gardy.

I'd rather have Teahen than Kotsay but Kotsay has a better approach at the plate. He's just too old and has lost whatever talent he once had to do anything with his approach. Teahen continues to be a guy who thinks he is a power hitter (big swing, tons of strikeouts) when he should be a line drive hitter.

Fair enough. I just like to win at all costs. This team wins 7 or 8 straight vs. the Angels, swept the Red Sox but can't buy wins over its own division. Weird.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 26, 2010 -> 09:33 PM) stop trolling for arguments. This really has nothing to do with the conversation at hand and everyone knows you are just looking for someone to argue with this position I responded to this statement specifically. WTF are you talking about trolling for arguments? I won't knock it off BTW. So tell somebody else to knock it off. Or ban me. I won't be told to "knock it off." "And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers." How is responding to that line "trolling for arguments?" You either read my post wrong or you are looking for s*** to ban me on. THis is a reasonable response And he's in a town that has an unhealthy personal worship of their baseball players and managers. I don't know if rich ballplayers and managers consider worship of the fans unhealthy. They like it. Strokes their egos. And their wives like being important as well. You don't think players and their fans like being in towns where they are worshiped??